Any chance you can source your numbers? I tried to do the same calculation for my 18 year old gas car, and it came out a being a wash.

Finding hard numbers on the energy cost to build a new car was tough - the green sites showed the EV car poofed into the world with magic and butterflies, while the gas-centric sites made it sound like it took the entire world’s GDP to produce a single EV.

Also disheartening, the very few sites I could find that would list replacement costs for a battery pack had the price higher than the vehicle itself - IE, when the battery pack goes, you throw the car away & buy another one. That’s been a huge turnoff for me.

Not OP, but tire dust is a real problem. It’s one of those things we haven’t studied until very recently. It’s just gone under the radar because it’s easy to point at tailpipe emissions.

https://www.thedrive.com/news/tire-dust-makes-up-the-majority-of-ocean-microplastics-study-finds

https://www.forbes.com/sites/lauriewinkless/2024/12/18/tires-shed-millions-of-tonnes-of-microplastics-into-the-environment/

Now are EVs worse? If we compare the same class of vehicle, EVs are going to be about 20% heavier, so yes, they’re going to create more tire dust. Is that worse than the tailpipe emissions from a gas vehicle? Probably not. But it’s deceptive to not include tire dust when comparing emissions between the two vehicle types.

No.

But to be clear, somewhere over the last 20 years it seems I’ve also fallen out of the middle class? I bought a new car fresh out of college, and then again about 10 years later. But I look at the price of new cars today, and they’re simply not a purchase I can afford. So, it looks like I’m not going to be buying any new cars anymore, Tesla or otherwise. That feels weird.

I was blown away when my die-hard Republican boomer dad said he thinks climate change is real. There’s a pond behind our house, and he can remember how big it used to get in the rainy season and how small it used to get in the dry season. Now, during the rainy season it comes up to the backdoor, and during the dry season it’s not there at all. If he can still trust his own eyes over what the TV tells him to think, maybe there’s still some hope for the world.

Came here to mention mincemeat. Good stuff.

For those of you who have never tried it - it’s mostly dark brown sugar, cinnamon, & raisins. But it has that fatty aftertaste you normally associate with bacon as well.

For a few brief years, there’s was a men’s alternative to Valentines day. “Steak & Blowjobs day” was held exactly one month later, on March 14.

I have never seen such a surge in love for mathematics since then. Women around the world who barely know what Pi represents were suddenly very aware that March 14 was Pi day.

Okay, this could be very cool. Hats off to them for generating buzz.

Serious question, if they do make the initial production, but a few years down the road the company doesn’t survive, is there any way to get parts? Saw a video where they briefly mention all the parts are coming from existing contract manufacturing, which implies to me that parts are either off the shelf components and/or they’ve got the CAD files designed & out there. Would they bundle that up & sell it as an “advanced owner’s manual” with the vehicle if we wanted it? Because we’re not going to be able to call up a junkyard & ask for a wheel hub the same way you can with an F-150.