@yogthos MVVM stands for Model-View-ViewModel, and is a pattern commonly used in dotnet and winui apps for decoupling backend business logic from frontend UI.
What on earth do you mean by “no app provides APIs to access the business logic layer outside the UI?” These apps are using APIs to begin with, the app doesn’t NEED to provide them. The devs provides them to the app, the other way around.
I understand how MVC works perfectly fine. This is not what the discussion is about. What you’re being told is that apps you’ll find in the wild typically DO NOT provide APIs that can be leveraged in the way I described. You completely ignored that.
Show me what Android or iOS apps can be used at API level to create a custom UI on top of them using a third party app.
@yogthos You’re describing a Platform, but we have an actual oligarchy of tech platforms now. When they get too big, they just become power grabs, hence why Mastodon and Lemmy and fedi in general started picking up recently.
It’s not worth even a scrap of good UX if these platforms can take away our voices on a whim. Fedi is on the right track.
Again, there is absolutely nothing that prevents this from being implemented in open source fashion. And this is a completely different use case from Fedi. This is basically extending the Unix philosophy to applications and it would put control in the hands of the user in how they want to interact with the app. For example, you could take a bunch of apps and make your own custom UI that leverages their functionality to solve a specific workflow you have. Try stepping out of your demagogy for a minute and actually think about this.
Pretty much no app provides APIs to access the business logic layer outside the UI. You’re just trolling at this point.
@yogthos MVVM stands for Model-View-ViewModel, and is a pattern commonly used in dotnet and winui apps for decoupling backend business logic from frontend UI.
For example, this: https://youtu.be/Nb6fEeYfDAU
I feel like I’m the one being trolled here.
What on earth do you mean by “no app provides APIs to access the business logic layer outside the UI?” These apps are using APIs to begin with, the app doesn’t NEED to provide them. The devs provides them to the app, the other way around.
I understand how MVC works perfectly fine. This is not what the discussion is about. What you’re being told is that apps you’ll find in the wild typically DO NOT provide APIs that can be leveraged in the way I described. You completely ignored that.
Show me what Android or iOS apps can be used at API level to create a custom UI on top of them using a third party app.
@yogthos
Also— nobody is telling me. I’ve been doing this for over a decade.
Show me what Android or iOS apps can be used at API level to create a custom UI on top of them using a third party app.
@yogthos Bro that’s not how apps work. What you’re describing is a platform.
That’s my whole point bro. This is how apps should work, but they don’t work this way.
@yogthos You’re describing a Platform, but we have an actual oligarchy of tech platforms now. When they get too big, they just become power grabs, hence why Mastodon and Lemmy and fedi in general started picking up recently.
It’s not worth even a scrap of good UX if these platforms can take away our voices on a whim. Fedi is on the right track.
Again, there is absolutely nothing that prevents this from being implemented in open source fashion. And this is a completely different use case from Fedi. This is basically extending the Unix philosophy to applications and it would put control in the hands of the user in how they want to interact with the app. For example, you could take a bunch of apps and make your own custom UI that leverages their functionality to solve a specific workflow you have. Try stepping out of your demagogy for a minute and actually think about this.