This is honestly the first time I’ve seen pretty much anything about it.

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    The premise that parent puts forward is that I should be OK with genocide as long as his kid is ok. That’s unemphatic. By any metric of the situation, one issue is far more important and extreme than the other.

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      They said nothing of the sort. That’s just a lie.

      And no, by any metric of the situation, a person’s child is far more important than anything else in their life. Or should be. Because that child didn’t ask to be born. They are owed everything.

      And in this case, this child’s life is in danger because of a genocide of trans people that is already well underway and that you apparently don’t give a shit about. I guess there’s only one genocide that matters.

      And what exactly have you done about it other than berate people for caring more about their own children than they do the genocide in Palestine? Because I spend hours each week contacting politicians for JVP. Before I escaped on Monday with my own queer child (who you probably think I should also not care about), the staffers at Larry Buschon’s regional office were sick of me going there twice a month.

      Have you done anything other than sit on your ass and tell people not to care about their kids?

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        You need to go through the entire thread.

        This guy is saying we should’ve left the gazans to their fate in exchange for his child’s gender identity.

        Also trans people are not being genocided. They are not being chased in the streets and killed, nor are they being rounded up in camps, nor are there bombs getting dropped in their gathering places. What’s happening to gazans is genocide, what happened to the rhoyinga is genocide. When shit gets even close to that level, then it’s genocide.

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          That’s what I thought, you have not done a single thing about the genocide in Palestine other than berate people. Not one email to one politician despite there being easily accessible form emails. Very eager to berate others, too lazy to do anything yourself.

          Also, you do not understand what genocide is.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender_genocide#United_States

          https://www.hrc.org/press-releases/human-rights-campaign-extremists-at-cpac-laid-bare-hatred-at-root-of-vile-legislation-targeting-trans-people

          https://medium.com/prismnpen/surprisingly-this-is-what-a-trans-genocide-looks-like-a1b5bc29c833

          https://spartanscoop.org/2023/04/the-steps-of-genocide-and-trans-americans/

          Alternately, you do understand what genocide is, but you’re okay with it when it is happening to queer people. And I suspect that’s the real answer considering you think a parent of a trans kid shouldn’t prioritize their safety.

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            The articles you have linked to are a mix of rubbish and fear mongering.

            What is currently transpiring with transgender people in the U.S. is comparable to the Holocaust or any true genocide that has taken place

            That is fucking horrendous to say. Those two things are not even in the same sport much less the league.

            What’s happening to queers in the US is not genocide. It does not meet the legal definition of genocide (according to the wiki section you posted), going around saying stuff like that minimizes actual genocide

            As for what I’m doing on Palestine, I will not respond to this question for the sake of my anonymity. Now you may just say that I’m using this a veil, but it’s pretty easy for me to lie and say I’ve done so and so when I have not.

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              How did I guess? “Those lying trannies are just fine.”

              Also, “I’m not going to tell you what I do” is bullshit. You don’t do a thing. I told you what I do and it in no way reveals my identity.

              You have done nothing about the genocide in Palestine and we both know it.

              Have you ever even talked to a Palestinian in your life and asked them what they would like you to help with? Doubtful. Too busy hating queer people.

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                In Egyptian, I live in the US. I meet Palestinians everyday, there are Palestinians in my family. Palestine for you is an issue that popped up about a 2 years ago, for me it’s been the struggle of generations. I have family members that have died in wars about this matter, thrown in prison and tortured. You don’t understand what it’s like to actually be in danger, so shut the fuck up. You are used to not having backlash whereas I’ve seen doors broken down and hoods thrown over people’s faces over Facebook posts.

                If it gets out that you sent some emails, who gives a shit. There is no risk for you, for me there is, therefore it’s imperative that I don’t discuss what I do, or don’t do on the Internet. Emails aren’t really that important, voting is far more important yet when that right is exercised people like you and the other guy bitch about it.

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                  Palestine for you is an issue that popped up about a 2 years ago,

                  Why are you lying about me? I’ve had a close Palestinian friend since I was six years old.