• iamthetot@piefed.ca
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    It’s a quote from a villain. You’re not supposed agree with it or him.

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      I’m not using the quote for the source, I’m using the quote for what it says.

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        But in the source of the quote, there’s a 1h55m parable to go along with it and why you shouldn’t agree with it.

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          As said, I don’t care where the quote comes from and what reasons they present in 2 hour movie. I apply the logic of the quote to the discussion we have here, and decided to not agree. It is my personal opinion independent from the film. BTW I watched the film too.

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            But if you don’t care about the context that it comes from, you may as well say you don’t agree with “Greed is good” from Wall Street either.

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              The context does not matter for our discussion. I evaluate the quote by itself, not as a quote, but as a standalone statement. There is nothing wrong with that approach. Why? Because the quote is used in context of OUR discussion, not in context of the film. It is applied as reasoning to our topic that has nothing to do with the film or its origin. And I disagree with that reasoning.

              I don’t know how to explain it else. Edit: Simply, I don’t care what the comic character has a reason for to say that. It has 0 impact on what I believe is right or wrong.

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        You said you “never agreed” with it, past tense. I assumed you meant in all contexts, including its original context.

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          I never agreed with it in all context I read it. I can’t disagree with a context I never read. I don’t know why you make it this complicated. I simply do not agree with it. Nothing to discuss about it.

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            I’m not trying to make anything complicated mate, just tried to give context to why I said what I said to you. If you weren’t aware, you are now that it’s a quote from a villain.

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              I watched the film. But the source doesn’t matter to our discussion. I talk about the statement on its own with context to our discussion. It doesn’t matter to me who said it. I was very clear about this.