Two hundred people deployed to save an historical building that had an exhibition about the crimes committed there. Every opportunity to remember all the faces of evil is important.
I don’t understand why people celebrate history going up in flames.
As long as you’re careful to distinguish actual historical monuments (e.g. this) from propagandistic fake ones built long after-the-fact (e.g. Confederate statues built in the 1950s).
I don’t explicitly think it should be burned down, but I do know of specific examples of modern day Nazis who still venerate it and just don’t have the equipment to process that it’s intended to be cautionary and not a shrine to hitler.
Fascists watch Starship Troopers and come away impressed by the cool soldiers shooting bugs. those people are not going to be shamed by a scoldy exhibition with pictures of concentration camp dead. They want more of that!
Real talk, you don’t casually pop out for dinner to hitlers remote mountain bunker that has been converted to a restaurant. That is a very specific, politically filtered clientele.
I also wanna say that I -as a communist- would’ve also gone there because of the historical associations, because I’m fascinated by history and enjoy the idea of “[person] was here [x] years ago”, like when I visited the place John Lennon got shot.
I hear what you’re saying, but I don’t care how good the food or view is at mar-a-lago after the American dictator dies, I don’t think I’d enjoy patronizing it.
I wouldn’t have had this perspective 5 years ago, but the world is not trying to conceal its evils any more.
TWO HUNDRED fucking personnel deployed to save the hitler dacha?
Two hundred people deployed to save an historical building that had an exhibition about the crimes committed there. Every opportunity to remember all the faces of evil is important. I don’t understand why people celebrate history going up in flames.
As long as you’re careful to distinguish actual historical monuments (e.g. this) from propagandistic fake ones built long after-the-fact (e.g. Confederate statues built in the 1950s).
Of course. But I would still see value of preserving those in the right context - for example, a Rewriting History Museum instead of a public square.
I don’t explicitly think it should be burned down, but I do know of specific examples of modern day Nazis who still venerate it and just don’t have the equipment to process that it’s intended to be cautionary and not a shrine to hitler.
Fascists watch Starship Troopers and come away impressed by the cool soldiers shooting bugs. those people are not going to be shamed by a scoldy exhibition with pictures of concentration camp dead. They want more of that!
There’s such a thing as ‘Erinnerungskultur’ in Germany, in which it’s considered important to remember the history so we don’t repeat it.
Otherwise this place has been basically a restaurant for years that doesn’t really capitalize on the historical aspect iirc.
Real talk, you don’t casually pop out for dinner to hitlers remote mountain bunker that has been converted to a restaurant. That is a very specific, politically filtered clientele.
It’s a gasthaus on top of a mountain. You go there after hiking up a mountain. The clientele is hikers who like the view.
I also wanna say that I -as a communist- would’ve also gone there because of the historical associations, because I’m fascinated by history and enjoy the idea of “[person] was here [x] years ago”, like when I visited the place John Lennon got shot.
I hear what you’re saying, but I don’t care how good the food or view is at mar-a-lago after the American dictator dies, I don’t think I’d enjoy patronizing it.
I wouldn’t have had this perspective 5 years ago, but the world is not trying to conceal its evils any more.
yeah mar a lago does not in any way constitute an interesting place or a connection to an interesting person so fire away
maybe something else nearby could catch fire
That’s a valid point.