• Doomsider@lemmy.world
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      4 hours ago

      An authoritarian dictatorship with socialistic policies isn’t socialism and it is definitely not Communist.

      The term as it is used makes no sense.

      • XiJinpingStanAccount@lemmy.ml
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        51 minutes ago

        I don’t care if you think that it’s communist, socialist, or an authoritarian dictatorship. Can we all just agree the US bombing it would not be a good thing? Can we focus on preventing that and then after Cuba is safe you can both go back to debating their communism credentials or whatever?

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        4 hours ago

        The whole point of the last 70 years of war against Cuba has been to deprive and pressure them into collapse, and the authoritarianism, which I do not approve of or support, is an inevitable result of prolonged warfare.

        The fact that they have survived as a nation-state with any sovereignty is highly impressive.

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        4 hours ago

        Okay now you’re conflicting with yourself since you said according to .ml, which leans very heavily tankie. I’ve spent enough time in .ml comment sections to know huge swathes of them have zero problem with authoritarians so long as they’re on the right team. They’re the ones that, when someone else asked about authoritarianism in China, simply said that all states are authoritarian, which, to be fair, isn’t really wrong.

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          4 hours ago

          Yeah, that the thing. Socialism is the withering state and Communism is the stateless version.

          It is clear that Cuba is not a stateless society where the people control the means of production.

          Saying Cuba is Communist is nonsensical. Even according to a Communist.

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            2 hours ago

            Communism is the stateless version.

            Statelessness is anarchy practically by definition. Also, by this definition, communism has never been tried at scale, and if you’re getting your definition from .ml, I doubt they’d agree with that.

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              1 hour ago

              communism has never been tried at scale

              Hence why claiming that countries are Communist is so ridiculous to begin with let alone calling Cuba Communist. It is silly, I am not sure they even claim to be Communist themselves other than having the PCC.