Let’s start with my mistakes:
- I haven’t followed LKML.
- I assumed: Every ThinkPad has - overall - perfect Linux support, so this will as well.
- I did look up support when purchasing but I was still not verifying on the LKML.
- Edit: I trusted Qualcomm’s marketing
So, I wanted a ARM-Linux laptop so bad. I heared about the Lenovo ThinkPad X13s in 2023 and I looked at marketing promises and (rare!) takes on it. Then there was the opportunity to buy this laptop fir a good price with the entire stats I would require for my next 10+ years. So I bought it.
In order to bake Linux on it I had to read up upon many things - I run it daily but have to accept some downsizes.
Anyhow, I thought this title would be interessting regarding Lenovo’s and Qualcomm’s “success” on ARM so that others may be aware that I am looking daily for the LKML and my model SC8280XP.
There is ONE SINGLE CONTRIBUTOR (there were two; The other joined Lenovo) allowed to have “elected and requested” documents in order to aid support. Despite their intentions (QUALCOMM) to support Linux. And I furthermore assume it hasn’t have changed with the new Snapdragon X processors.
So, thanks to John Hovold and Linaro for doing an awesome job. I wish I could support you.
OMG I figured it out. English isn’t your first language. THAT’S why you don’t make any sense what-so-ever in almost every one of your comments. You basically have a child’s understanding of the language coupled with the belief that you have mastered the language.
I’ll be honest, this sounds interesting, but I have no idea what you’re even trying to say.
Where does the $2700 price come from?
Does it support Linux or not?
Are you happy with it or not?
What’s LKMS?
I’m really struggling to even parse the basics from your post.I’ll be honest, this sounds interesting, but I have no idea what you’re even trying to say.
I am just sharing for the community. And I want some nerdish engagement tbqh.
Where does the $2700 price come from?
It was the manufacture price when I purchased it.
Does it support Linux or not?
It does but there are a few important things lacking. Also it isn’t stable without reading up on LKMS upfront and knowing what to do. Not all distros are capable of booting it yet (e.g. void).
Are you happy with it or not?
I poured ~$1200 to Qualcomm/Lenovo and they are employing one worker from one sub company. Interpret it on your own.
What’s LKMS?
RTFM. // Edit: I missspelled. LKML. I edited my post. Appreciated.
I’m really struggling to even parse the basics from your post.
I am open for sharing my insights, though : )
It’s amazing that you think this is a clarifying post and not just more confusing. You really didn’t answer any of their questions at all.
Of whom?
Where does the $2700 price come from?
It was the manufacture price when I purchased it.
I poured ~$1200 to Qualcomm/Lenovo
I’m even more confused now. Did you pay 1200$ or 2400$, and if the second why would you for a laptop with these specs?
The listing price was $2700 on purchase. I bought it for around $1800. The $650 dollar are from the Lenovo outlet store. I could sell this laptop for less then $500 on ebay.
How did you calculate $1200 from this?
I missspelled. LKML. I edited my post.
You edited one LKMS. But… What about 2nd LKMS?
I edited both:
Idk why I get downvoted for this.I am transparent and sharing my experience. I almost paid $2000 dollar for my dream and contributed as best as I can.
TIL: Don’t fk post.// Edit: But prompt your confusion. You may get insight.
Don’t tell people to RTFM when you present a unique hardware/software limitation scenario.
You said you wanted a chat, so chat about the issue, don’t give the group homework
Thisnis slightly out of context. I told to (politely though, I thought) RTFM because the acronym should have been known in this channel. Though I have missspelled it and therefore his question was valuable critique.
I didn’t downvote you, but you kind of glossed over the unreasonably high price point for a middle of the road Thinkpad that looks like it’s worth less than what Lenovo is currently reselling it for. You can literally build a high end gaming rig for less than what you paid for that so I feel like we’re missing a lot of context here.
I know that’s why I made this post: My hopes were high up and I payed the price. So I shared my experience.
Appreciate your follow up, Sir or Madame.
They claimed 28 Hours of no connectivity video playback with a moderate amount of brightness (if I recall correctly about 50%). It may get there half (Windows or Linux) but you will be at 0% left.
Literally every single comment you post has one or more sentences that are unrelated to everything prior to it and don’t indicate who they’re even directed at… It feels like you’re having conversations with ghosts that only you can hear.
Just a guess but it may be due to “RTFM” in
RTFM. // Edit: I missspelled. LKML. I edited my post. Appreciated.
We don’t endore that kind of behaviour here so that might be why.
Either way I believe that the rest of your comment and post seems good and informs the public as it’s your experience with the ARM laptop so I gave you my upvotes for those parts👍
I see; Thank you for teaching me. From now on I will try to be more objective and inclusive!
In real life I am known to be upfront (and too fast many times as well). No excuse - just some perspective from myself I have to think about.
Sorry about the downvotes
How dare you!
If it comes with Windows pre installed, that’s a big red flag for me. Also there will be the cost of a license for it included in the cost that MS will pocket giving nothing in return.
I’ve never bought any of my laptops new because I can’t wrap my head around how they justify those prices. $2700 for a laptop? I wouldn’t pay $700 for a laptop, and I’m sure my PC is far more powerful than this laptop that I paid a fraction of the cost for.
You are untinted. Tha nk 's for th is, bot.
Bro are you having a medical emergency? Look at other threads, you are uniquely insane.
I assume the 2700 is SRP? Don’t use SRP ever, it’s total nonsense. It has in fact become such nonsense use of SRP in marketing/sales is actually illegal in the EU. Instead of it being an actual price point manufacturers intended for the product to be sold at, it’s always always a factor of that. So shops could advertise with a 50% discount on SRP, to get at what is just the regular price and not even a good one at that. That was considered so misleading, SRP use is banned. Instead the marketing can only be based on actual lowest prices the product was for sale at.
You may chime in here: I purchased it with three years of support as well (they [Lenovo] exchanged my brickes speakers, btw).
Why didn’t you buy a framework, or even a macbook and run asahi Linux on it?
Do either of them have mouse nipples?
Neither will Thinkpad soon.
Citation needed.
