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    21 hours ago

    If it was just pure copying the best you could hope for is that you match the performance of your competitor. To exceed their performance genuine investment must be made.

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      23 hours ago

      Name a Chinese company that produces a product that’s best in the world.

      There’s probably some lasers/tech etc but nothing consumer, I would guess.

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        18 hours ago

        The commercial drones from DJI are the best in the industry. But also making something that’s almost as performant but for a fraction of the cost requires real innovation as well.

        DeepSeek’s training model was innovative. They used multiple large specialized models to train a very small general model. This is a real practical innovation over OpenAI’s one behemoth general purpose model.

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        23 hours ago

        Solar panels. Huawei had some very good 5g tech before the US sanctioned them (great performance competitive price). Electric cars from various brands like BYD and, a very good case can be made about deepseek r1 (same performance as o1 but using an order of magnitude less power/cost).

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          19 hours ago

          Can’t comment on deepseek but Huawei and BYD certainly are inferior to other products in their industries. Probably not for long, but it’s still a happenstance I believe.

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          19 hours ago

          They produce other people’s products, I’m talking Chinese designed, produced etc vehicle, phone, TV, plane, whatever