What encrypted messenger do you use most that isn’t Zucking Meta’s Whatsapp and Signal?
Edit Also, besides iMessage and RCS. Sorry thanks
session and jami
GPG my brother
SimpleX
matrix. it’s not perfect, but it’s the least shit option i’ve found so far. in the poorly paraphrased words of bjarne stroustrup, “there are only two kinds of chat protocols: the ones people complain about, and the ones nobody uses”
What do I use the most or what do people use the most? I use Matrix the most as most of my friends are on it (+ have it bridged with some chats that aren’t on Matrix). Then after that SimpleX. I don’t know what the most popular encrypted messengers among the general population, except for the ones you listed, are.
Concersations.im. It’s my backup because it supports OMEMO and OpenPGP.
Besides that, Element. I use it for its public rooms.
Kind of ironic to use a private messenger that requires a Google account.
Huh? Which messenger requires a Google account? I’ve been using both Element and Conversations on Google-free Android devices with accounts not connected to Google for years.
Conversations is only available via Play Store and costs $8.
I got it from F-Droid for free.
I see how the website gives that impression, which I assume is an attempt to push non-technical users toward an install method that does not lead to support requests and helps fund the project.
The site also mentions that you can build it from source for free, so it’s not technically claiming that it’s only available from the Play store. If you follow that link, you’ll see that availability on F-Droid is prominently displayed on the README.
I use SimpleX most often. I use Matrix fairly often, too, but none of the rooms I frequent are encrypted.
Matrix, Briar, SimpleX, Threema
I wish I could use Matrix on my phone without it eating my battery 🫤
This is the way.
I can’t even get my social circle to switch from WhatsApp to Signal, let alone anything else. I use Conversations, a feature rich XMPP client for select stuff.
I essentially did this with Facebook. People still fucking contact me on Messenger.
while i agree, i figure most people would be really annoyed with this
Good, they can delete WhatsApp to fix that. What is your solution and how many times has it actually worked?
no, they can’t, thats not how this works. we haven’t solved this.
So, try this.
i don’t really want people pulling this type of stuff on me, and i don’t feel like doing it to others. i don’t feel like its a solution either.
You’re not looking for a solution.
XMPP with OMEMO?
Me? XMPP.
Most used? Depends in what circles. Telegram is popular in some. SimpleX and Session in others. XMPP in free software circles. Matrix in others.
Telegram should not be considered an encrypted solution, due to the opt-in nature of their encryption. The owner regularly collaborates with law enforcement, as well.
I have tried them all, I just use XMPP through Cheogram (mobile) and Movim (desktop in browser) now. I have had success getting my contacts to switch since I never bugged them about any other messengers before. Plus I am willing to follow through with ultimatums of abandonment and they are well aware of that.
If you have any actually normal friends (no offense) you’re going to have to use the regular phone network. XMPP has the best phone network gateway, I’ve bought like five Soprani.ca numbers. No it doesn’t encrypt the regular phone network.
Delta/Arcane Chat is cool but due to everyone basically being an admin-level user in the chat, I strictly use it as a home base for real homies. I mainly use it to run one gajillion bots, check my emails, run Mastodon/Misskey fork accounts in one location, and send stuff/WebXDC apps to myself.
You can’t seriously replace the social media monopolies or the phone network yet. I even run some Telegrams (don’t make fun of me) and control them with the Delta Chat bot. People just need to get used to “backing up” their social graph with secure options, and not just saying whatever pops into their head outside them
Matrix/Element :)
I may not know much about software development & programming itself however, I feel like I did my part here.
+1 for Linux folks.
Awesome! Thank you for that!
This! With bridges you can even have all your chats from different chat networks in one app.
Exactly! Thats my next step :)
Matrix is the only one I actually use other than the rest.
There is also XMPP, SimpleX, Threema, Briar, cwtch, Tox, and Delta Chat.
