• Chozo@fedia.io
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    3 hours ago

    I’m confused. I’ve played Genshin, and I don’t remember any sort of loot box system in the game. There’s a gacha system which seems to be what the article keeps referring to, but that’s very different from what I think the average user considers a “loot box”.

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      1 hour ago

      a gachapon, the system gacha is named after, its litterally a form of a lootbox. you know, those machines found in places where you place tokens to vend out a random goodie?

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      You’re gonna need to explain what you think the difference is, because most people think they’re synonymous

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        There isn’t a meaningful difference; gachas are just a subset of lootboxes, and anybody claiming otherwise is a player lying to themselves or is a game publisher defending themselves from these predatory practices.

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        I feel like the difference is the loot “box”, itself. Granted, I’ve not played any loot box games since Team Fortress 2, but in that game the box was an actual inventory item you could store and open whenever you wanted, and those items would always be from the same pool.

        With Genshin, you’re basically just pulling from a singular, infinite loot box that rotates its reward pool. So you can’t, as a player, decide to open a Year 1 item when it’s not in the current rotation.

        It’s a small difference, but I feel like that’s why we have separate terminology for “gacha” and “loot box” games.

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          My apologies if I’m getting this wrong, as I don’t play Gacha games, but isn’t that worse?
          As in, if the players know that a certain reward they’re trying to get will be rotated out soon, won’t that drive up the FOMO even more?

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      Gacha is a type of loot box.

      You aren’t purchasing a specific item when you spend money. If there’s any sort of chance involved with that purchase it’s a loot box.