Ivkenz I understand being mad at him for sure. It’s they staying mad at him forever that I don’t understand. People make mistakes. People change. He didn’t do anything worse than 90% of the guys I knew in highschool at some point. You grow up and you learn that behavior isn’t correct.
Changing is insufficient. Apologizing is only sometimes sufficient.
Sometimes to undo damage you need to actively push against the thing you did.
You don’t just say “sorry I said the N word, that was bad”. You educate people on why it’s not ok to say and call out others who say it. You put in the effort to make things better, not just good enough.
Apologizing alone is insufficient always. Apologies are empty without action.
Changing alone is sometimes sufficient. Not everything needs to be a spectacle all the time. For public figures, though, this is insufficient.
Apologizing + changing is perfectly sufficient. With this, you have explained that you know what you did is wrong, and that you no longer stand behind the actions you took in the past. You prove this is true by changing your behaviour.
Expecting someone to become an educator on why people should never make the mistakes you did is unreasonable.
Pewdiepie specifically has made multiple videos/statements on why he should never have done the things he did, explaining why it wasn’t okay. He has shown to be remorseful for his actions, and hasn’t made anywhere close to the same mistakes in years.
To be fair, I get you not wanting to support him personally. I think it’s harsh, but as a public figure the decisions a person makes have larger consequences than a normal person. However, I don’t think it makes sense to call him a nazi, or even a racist. It simply isn’t true at this point.
People can change. I’m sure there is something you have said in the past that you no longer agree with, and if everyone held it against you for the rest of your life you wouldn’t think it were fair.
If you don’t think people can change, and will hold a mistake someone made against them forever, even if they have apologized and changed, then I’m sorry, but based on your behaviour, I’d say you are a worse person then they are.
Ivkenz I understand being mad at him for sure. It’s they staying mad at him forever that I don’t understand. People make mistakes. People change. He didn’t do anything worse than 90% of the guys I knew in highschool at some point. You grow up and you learn that behavior isn’t correct.
Changing is insufficient. Apologizing is only sometimes sufficient.
Sometimes to undo damage you need to actively push against the thing you did.
You don’t just say “sorry I said the N word, that was bad”. You educate people on why it’s not ok to say and call out others who say it. You put in the effort to make things better, not just good enough.
This is a bad take.
Apologizing alone is insufficient always. Apologies are empty without action. Changing alone is sometimes sufficient. Not everything needs to be a spectacle all the time. For public figures, though, this is insufficient. Apologizing + changing is perfectly sufficient. With this, you have explained that you know what you did is wrong, and that you no longer stand behind the actions you took in the past. You prove this is true by changing your behaviour.
Expecting someone to become an educator on why people should never make the mistakes you did is unreasonable.
Pewdiepie specifically has made multiple videos/statements on why he should never have done the things he did, explaining why it wasn’t okay. He has shown to be remorseful for his actions, and hasn’t made anywhere close to the same mistakes in years.
To be fair, I get you not wanting to support him personally. I think it’s harsh, but as a public figure the decisions a person makes have larger consequences than a normal person. However, I don’t think it makes sense to call him a nazi, or even a racist. It simply isn’t true at this point.
People can change. I’m sure there is something you have said in the past that you no longer agree with, and if everyone held it against you for the rest of your life you wouldn’t think it were fair.
If you don’t think people can change, and will hold a mistake someone made against them forever, even if they have apologized and changed, then I’m sorry, but based on your behaviour, I’d say you are a worse person then they are.
Ah, no, I was speaking generically. I know nothing about this guy except he was popular with the sort of teens I would have avoided in highschool.
But apologies are sometimes sufficient, if the harm is small.