I currently use an iPhone, but given the recent attacks made by the US president and members of his administration on my country (tariffs, annexation threats,etc) I am loathe to support any company based out of that nation any longer. Obviously I know that it is likely impossible to get a functional mobile experience with zero US corporate involvement, but what is the least possible I could do and still be practical? A degoogled fair phone device? Something Chinese running a custom rom like lineage os?

I want to sell my iPhone and Apple Watch ASAP and get something that won’t have my sending money to the US via my app purchases (store cut), monthly services (iCloud), and my data being used/sold.

Thanks!

  • schnapspraline@lemmy.worldEnglish
    45·
    10 hours ago

    Devices

    • Fairphone 5 (Netherlands)
      • OS: LineageOS, CalyxOS
      • Or buy it new from iode (France), they also sell other phones as well
    • Shiftphone 8 (Germany)
      • Is the only Android phone with hardware kill switches (for mic and camera)
      • Working on CalyxOS and LineageOS support

    For OS comparission

    • MaxMalRichtig@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
      4·
      5 hours ago

      I have the Fairphone form iode with their OS on it. Best phone I had so far and the System ist pretty much set up the way I like it out if the box.

    • olof@lemmy.mlEnglish
      7·
      8 hours ago

      I have a Fairphone 5 and am very satisfied with it. Would definitely recommend

    • RobotToaster@mander.xyzEnglish
      61·
      9 hours ago

      For OS comparission

      It’s worth noting that graphene doesn’t have automatic calls recording, and the Devs have been weirdly aggressive about deleting and banning people that ask for it.

      • ashaman2007@lemm.eeEnglish
        61·
        6 hours ago

        Maybe because… automatically recording calls is literally illegal in some places around the world? It should probably be user choice to opt in to that so it wouldn’t be on by default. And then, if you have it on while travelling, you could forget and break the law when going through a jurisdiction that does not allow it. Better to explicitly allow for each call, like it does currently.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telephone_call_recording_laws

            • TheLightItBurns@lemmy.worldEnglish
              1·
              11 minutes ago

              I use GrapheneOS and have reviewed a lot of the documentation in the OS and built in apps. They like to pair the words privacy and security together in that documentation. The info sheet for the chromium degoogled browser they developed called Vanadium is very focused on both aspects. I personally think the two concepts go hand in hand.

              Its also the first time I’ve used a non-firefox type of browser in almost a decade. It feels weird, but they are good at describing why it’s more secure in GrapheneOS due to its superior ability to maintain app sandboxes, which is a big reason I use the OS. Full control over what apps can see on my device.