The ruling class is still the bourgeoisie, the state is not above the base.

The famed Kelly award!

My explanation was for Hexbear’s Anarchists, for one, and for two, none of the people there seemed to imply I don’t respect Anarchists. I’m aware db0 disagrees with both me and Hexbear’s Anarchists, and I’m aware the non-Hexbear Anarchists tend to agree more with db0 on the Lemmy space. Further still, db0 was representing my argument, not letting me make it.

This doesn’t imply that I don’t respect Anarchists, and I think that’s slander.

I feel that this is just being disingenuous, but I’ll keep your suggestion in mind. You appear to have issues with Marxism, then, or at least the Marxist conception of Communism, and that’s why you made your original comment, or appears to be why.

Further still, I don’t know what you mean by saying a “lot of people say I don’t respect Anarchists.” Mind elaborating?

I don’t assume Anarcho-Communism isn’t a form of Communism, but I do find it more intuitive to say Communism for Marxism, and Anarchism for Anarchism, as that’s what occupies most people’s minds. I do respect Anarchists, actually, I don’t know what you mean by saying a “lot of people say I don’t respect Anarchists.”

I’m using Communist to refer to what most people understand as Communist. I’m sure you have your own opinions on what that constitutes and how, but they are definitely not the standard or traditional readings of Marxist Communism.

Patriots are in control 🫡

Honestly kinda funny seeing Trump destroy the US Empire.

Thanks for the kind words, and don’t worry! I do take frequent breaks, that’s why I made a Hexbear alt in the first place, haha.

Looks like it.

George Lucas did say the rebels were essentially the Viet Cong, and the Empire the US Empire. It’s a shame liberals would rather see the DNC as the rebels, than realize that the DNC is just another wing of Empire.

Edit: I know that isn’t a Vietnamese War poster, but the Hollywood bit is what I’m talking about.

Absolutely! It’s kinda surreal seeing Marx get vindicated, he predicted markets would eventually develop these kinds of technologies in order to deal with ever-increasing complexity in production.

Thanks, I really do appreciate it! At the end of the day, I try to only speak on what I know, so that helps me not get frustrated if someone comes in in clearly bad-faith, haha.

Interesting, and heartbreaking, of course. I never knew about the link to JIT from Cybersyn, I’ll have to give that a watch. Thanks!

I do be mentioning Marx

Oh shit, I need to watch that! Thanks, comrade!

Communism is a post-Socialist society, it must be global, highly developed, and have full public ownership, or close enough to those. The Soviet Union was, instead, Socialist, ie an economy where public ownership is the principle aspect. That being said, there were attempts at Cybernetics, and moving beyond money. These are actually incredibly interesting, and anyone interested in Socialism should look into those attempts.

If you want to learn more about Socialism and Communism, I recommend checking out my introductory Marxist-Leninist reading list.

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Basically. Marx wrote in the 1800s, so there can be confusion from those who only keep a surface-level understanding of Marxism, say, by sticking to Wikipedia summaries. If you want, I can provide sources that help elaborate on what I’m talking about.

Lemmy.ml is run by MLs for the most part, so even if this isn’t an explicitly Communist instance there is Communist sympathy. The user you are replying to takes issue with that.

Gotcha, keep it up, comrade 🫡