Look, I get the centrist impulse to browbeat anyone to your left. I get that you see a rich nazi’s money. I get that you want his money by any means, and know the easiest way to get it is to collaborate, but if you’re gonna collaborate with nazis, you’d best get used to being compared to vidkun. Democrats don’t take an evil person’s money and then be like “sucker!” and run off with it and work contrary to that person’s interests. They stay bought. Just like they did with netanyahu and his genocide. That must not happen again here.

No one’s defending collaboration with fascists—we’re pointing out that trying to get a powerful oligarch with control over key infrastructure to behave responsibly is not the same as praising or submitting to him.

You’re defending collaboration with nazis in particular. You’re claiming that trying to get a wealthy nazi to give you donations is responsibility instead of selling out to a nazi.

During the last election, I watched democrats move to the right on immigration. I watched them throw trans people under the bus. They did this in a stupid attempt to get republicans to vote for them. republicans didn’t vote for them. republicans know how to shout “sucker!” and run off. And now I’m watching democrats look at a literal hitler heilin’ nazi and be like “oh now look, he’s not so bad! We can work with him to get what we (will come to) want!” Against all evidence, you trust establishment democrats to maintain integrity and not sell us all out. I don’t. They have no integrity to abandon.

Just don’t throw others under the same judgement due to belonging to the same label, i.e. Dems.

For the last quarter of the biden administration, I saw the establishment wing of the democratic party openly and happily violate US law in order to play arms dealer for netanyahu’s genocide.

Nazis like elon must be opposed, democrats just spent a solid year demonstrating that they will absolutely go along with the worst of humanity’s every whim if it means thy get campaign donations. They must not do that with nazis in an environment in which we already have one nazi party. I will make no excuses for them and will scream abuse at their worthless nazi asses until my lungs no longer function.

Collaborationism must not be allowed to spread.

I’m not the one defending quislings.

Well, you keep calling me a rightwinger for saying that democrats shouldn’t be kissing up to a fucking nazi.

You’re fine with nazis but not criticism of quislings.

Ask your god elon, then.

I’m not a nazi so nothing I say makes any sense to you.

In regards to the statement about Dems siding with Nazis, don’t use labels to throw everyone under the same blanket and judge them all equally harshly.

I will judge anyone who sides with nazis harshly. Minimizing it like you’re doing just gives others cover to also side with nazis.

Just admit it - no leaders or even major legislators in the Dem party is kissing Nazi ass.

I never made that assertion. Elon is the leader the democrats in the article (and those in this thread minimizing this) have chosen.

Just more right wing misinformation for Lemmings such as yourself.

Everyone to the left of your boy elon is “right wing” to you.

The main issue is that he’s a fucking nazi.

No one in your linked article is a leader in the party

I didn’t say they were. They seem to be choosing a leader who is in line with centrist values. Which is to say, he has money and is a reprehensible piece of shit.

• just a lot of conjecture there to make the Dems the bad guys

Conjecture doesn’t typically involve direct quotes from sitting legislators.

and reinforce the “both parties are the same” narrative that your ilk like to spread.

You are fine with your party kissing nazi ass. Just not anyone pointing it out. I’d tell you to demand better, but it’s clear that you think you’re getting it already.

Do you believe in the redemption of elon musk?

Because I’m seeing the party that spent a whole assed year ignoring the Leahy law in order to sell weapons for genocide looking at a nazi and being like “you know, he’s not that bad.”

I counted two in the article.

In addition to a few downplaying it in this thread.

If they came to Earth, yes.

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/06/05/elon-musk-democrats-donald-trump-00389961

centrist democrats oppose progressives and kiss nazi elon’s ass.

Your “durr everyone to my left is all the way to my right” shit makes me wonder where you are in the queue.

What’s worse, democrats are already forming a line to kiss his nazi ass.

The US date format makes sense in the US. In a culture where days blur together endlessly in an endless slog of creating value for shareholders, the month is more important information than the day.

Priorities.

You’re rationalizing democrats’ opportunistic toadyism for a literal nazi.

Not with the way I heard it delivered.

Yes.