Wanna watch it with my 6 and 9 year olds soon. Is it that sad?! I skipped through it and it looked nice.

This is a tragedy. And everybody knows the US is a rogue state now. I’m more interested in reading about solutions, then further emotionalizing the debate. This isn’t helping anymore, it just makes ad money and attacks peoples mental health. Everyone already picked a side, so what do you want to do next?

Probably no, as its firmware auto-updates and they closed the jailbreak a year or two ago. But who knows, put it in airplane mode and check it.

Wait, rainbow capitalism wasn’t sincere?!

They happen because everyone else still does. It won’t stop until you stop. I’m too old for this, bye.

But where did I lie?
Muscle tissue needs to be cut from a dead animal. If you eat it, you pay for their exploitation and suffering with your money. You pay for destruction (deforestation, lakes of shit, you name it) as well. If you don’t, it doesn’t happen, so it’s your choice.

I honestly don’t understand. Where did I lie?

Meat is a luxury for the rich worldwide. In China, more and more people are living the standard of living that we have been exemplifying for decades. Here in Germany, meat consumption is falling sharply and that is important and good. I can’t force the world to do anything, I can only take responsibility for my own actions and ask others to do the same. Because it’s the right thing to do, and I’m sure you feel that too.

Hey, I don’t want to insult or manipulate you. I don’t want to get blocked as well. I’m just arguing for responsibleness and compassion, which i think is really important right know.
What you feel might be Cognitive Dissonance, the BBC wrote a great article about it. I felt it as well, I wasn’t born a vegan. Thanks for the debate.

This is not my native language, I was tying to be funny :)

Lab grown meat is not getting better nor cheaper since a decade, it’s still an ungodly block of stem cells. This is not a political statement, I don’t care if people eat lab grown, but it’s not there yet and to me, it’s off-putting and unnecessary.
Give plant based alternatives a try, there is already a huge variety that differs in taste and texture. Some are okay, some are great. At the moment, capitalism is stuffing it’s pockets with vegan meat money but this stuff is super cheap and easy to make and prices will fall if production numbers go up and there’s even more competition. So no need wait! Choose the food that reduces land use, water pollution and co2 emissions by at least 60%.

Yeah, this is just a vegan meme, no scientific theses. Gorillas sometimes eat a bug or two, and they have been seen eating small animals, but it’s not their usual diet. Look it up, they eat up to 30 kg of plant stuff per day, including leaves, stems, bark, flowers and fruits. That’s petty impressive.

Us humans are opportunistic animals as well, which has led to us destroying our global habitat. So we need to change or society will collapse in the not so distant future. There are a lot of things we need to address to survive the next century. The way we eat is one of them. And it’s the easiest, because you don’t have to get off your ass and protest, you don’t have to buy an expensive EV, you just change a habit and stop buying the destructive food next time your shop at the supermarket. You choose the food that saves ⅔ land use, waterpollution and co2-emissions. That’s my point.

Your source:

In addition to consuming a lot of plant matter, gorillas occasionally consume insects. Gorillas are not considered carnivores in the wild, despite the fact that they may consume meat when it is served to them in zoos. Although officially omnivores, gorillas primarily consume plants, including leaves, stems, bark, flowers, and fruits. They occasionally consume tiny vertebrates and insects as well.

If all of humanity started to “occasionally consume tiny vertebrates and insects” while “primarily consuming plants” by tomorrow, which we could, we’d be way better off. Do you agree?

Please fact check before posting, this is scientificaly inaccurate. Yeah they might eat a bug or two, but gorillas normally don’t eat other mammals.

Quitting meat will lead to a little less suffering, destruction and exploitation. It costs you just some self-reflection and a change of habit. But Uriel238, obviously a fellow leftist, refuses this. He wants others to change first. But they, as you said, also will not. Prisoners dilemma, crab mentality.

So be the change, Uriel238! You are against suffering, slavery and destruction of our resources? Against the greedy elite who brutaly and recklessly exploit the weak instead of protecting them? (See what I did there?)
Stop paying for dead animal parts next time you’re shopping at the supermarket! It feels really good to not take part in this evil system of misery and annihilation.
I know veganism is not the only solution, but no solution will ever be enough without it. Plus it’s the easiest Fuck You to the ruling class, while we wait for a revolution.

Well …

“Hey guys, check it out. I jus came up with this HILARIOUS owl-meme!”

Wow, I asked for the bullshit and you seriously delivered! Not sure if I should take the time to reply to this, because would it even matter?
One thing, though: Everything you eat is vegan, except for the animal tissue, the milk-stuff and eggs. We don’t need capitalism to invest in more vegan meat alternatives, we fight it by eating plant based! No junk, just delicious fruits, nuts, legumes and vegetables, like we always did. It’s cheap, great for your body and for our suffering planet as well!
Omnivores? We were lucky apes who found out that fire kills enough parasites and bacteria that live in meat. Dogs are the real omnivores, pigs are, too. They eat a rotting squirrel if the feel like it! We die if our bleach-cleaned chicken filet wasn’t in the freezer for a couple of hours.
Do you know what elephants and hippos eat all day … damn, I just started replying.