“Oi, mate! Duh you have a loicence?” - Unfortunately, no official, licenced data on hand. But a great project, indeed! Thanks for the info. Will keep it in mind for the future.

Oh, ok. Sounds bad, sorry for you! - I am not using OneDrive. Neither paid or unpaid.

Sorry, can’t answer this. - But I never use Google Maps or any self-hosted solution, just “OsmAnd” (https://osmand.net/) on my mobile for about a decade. It gives all I need for navigation, thought it’s not FOSS.

Well, I am also a “newbie” for OSM. But for building outline mapping it’s done on OSM editors, not with the StreetComplete app. So not sure if this can be automated. Most work is done manually, I believe. If you check out https://osmlab.github.io/show-me-the-way/ you will see how people are mapping their neighbourhood manually, too! - Yes, such a crazy community this is!

Really? What apps in particular? Asking, because I have not come across “extra payment for unrequested AI” yet.

Right, there lies the problem. Within StreetComplete you cannot set the POI-stats like that. You only answer questions or enter numbers (stairs, specific hours). So, the App should set this, if you select the drop-down answer “There are no opening hours.” - Does anyone has connections to the developers to claim this “bug”?

Well, that sounds like an app issue. Because this is one of the standard answers when you don’t find opening hours. Sure, it’s no “new” information, but at least you now know from the note that somebody has tried checking this, without success. - Is there a better way, in your opinion?

Usually, in the StreetComplete App, you only add what is missing to one specific object. (As far as I have understood.) If you want to make sure that all parking spots in the neighbourhood are equally set, you have to double-check in the OSM web-editor. (That’s how I do it.)

Right you are! Did not checked when copying the title. But now it’s edited.

Personal addition: You would be surprised, how many details in your area are still missing! And if you want to “increase gamification” or even make it more challenging, you try to catch features while on your commute or lunch break! Or by going out with a group - doing it in "team mode.

hmmm, an agenda? I am not aware I have any. Only here to discuss the topic and get other opinions to understand better. Just being here and chatting with all the folks, even the aggresive ones, already prooves (to me) that I am challenging my point of view.

Sorry, if I gave such bad imression on here. But may I ask some questions, as I find your critique a bit vague? - What do you think is my pre-held belive here? What angenda are you impying? And where am I ignoring evidence or moving the goalposts specifically?

Fully agree, that is worrying and they should not get a foot inside. Better if we would find some safe algorithm or independent moderation to filter the content according to law and ethics. And some independent payment service might also be helpfull, but no blockchain type, please. After all these years, I still don’t understand the hate against LGB… groups. But it surely looks like the hunting the witches, Roma or Jews in the past. The are a distinctive minority and thus a good target, unfortunately.

@[email protected], you have solid good points here! - Yes, the laws are democratically set and don’t need extra intereference by VISA, Mastercard or else. It is just my opinion that Valve has been very liberal on his marketplace and not removing critical content themselves. I think, that is what led to the interference in addtion to lobbyist behind the payment processors.

Yeah, my comparison was flawed. But I got the idea across. Right, the transaction process is not transparent, especially not without publishing the “hatelist”. - Especially good point here with the ethical aspect! There seems to be some double standard by VISA etc. about what is acceptable and what is not. I disagree with that, of course, as I still believe in ethical values also when consuming games. ;-) So enjoy you porn game, als long as it has legal themes.

Actually, I am convinced. The article was bad and confused my inital kowledge about the issue. But thank you all for the (mostly) civil discussion. The petition unfortunately is outside my jurisdiction, so I can not sign. But I will keep an eye on the topic.

Did some quick search and it turns out: There was controversy about revisionism and right-wing talking by the original lemmy.ml admins (and founders). Hence, everyone coming from there with fresh accounts immediately get’s the “idiot label”, is insulted and downvoted. Not a very welcoming gesture in such a supposed open, liberal and new community of geeks. - It seems, we can either change instaces, delete our accounts or ignore it.

You’ve got some good points here! These standards are usually enforced by law, just Valve/Steam is extremly liberal on his marketplace. But I fully agree, then the other bodies do not need to interfere, especially when they are so hard to be checked.

Edit: Still, in some way, I wish that companies throughout every service chain would implement and follow these moral standards and laws. And follow though, if they find negligence by other parties. (Kind of a “check and balance” thing.)

Ok, yes. They are quite “heavy-wheight”. And I might agree with their action now, but maybe another time it might be problematic for me. Also, that’s how Capitalism works: The one with the money decide. But then, we should put pressure on them and not Valve! And the question remains: How would you solve that technically? (This is what the community is about. And I am looking for solutions, not problems here.)

Oh, interesting! I know the poem. But I find it a harsh comparison to the situation about Valve’s new regulation. And I did not see it as such a highly-charged political topic. But apparently it is. To me it does not look like “a monolitic corporation”, as you can still buy games elsewhere. But I surely see the influence that the big banks/transactors have on Valve here. - But how would you limit this? Any technical solutions? On the other hand, if Valve would have implemented stricter rules for critical games themselves earlier, we would not have that problem/discussion now. (Please also see my other answer below.) Edit: Typo

Alright, I understand your point. But I only partially agree with it. Hear me out: You want a free marketplace to buy whatever you wish, without any dictations? - But any market or shops you can think of has some regulations and dependencies, right? The one who offers the platform dictates what and how it is traded, as far as it has been. And even more if banks or transaction processors are involved, who also have a say. Not ideal, I agree, but the norm. How do you want to technically solve this? By their own transaction service, like some suggest here? Not sure if that helps, because you might create a new monopoly.

And at the same time, we discuss this here, people demand transparency and environmently responsability for all the delivery chains. Like for clothing or food. - Is that not what happens here? The banks as part of the service chain are pushing Valve to implement stricter rulings about critical content. For me, that looks like what people would ask for. Correct me, if I am wrong.

What does my account origin has to do with that? Please explain. No, I don’t want to live in an authoritarian world. But I appreciate businesses following certain moral standards, like banning child porn in every aspect.

“Dog whistle”? Like for right wing talk? That is not what I am or what I mean. What is wrong about developing values? Being supportive to people is one value or finding moral standards, for example. That’s what I talk about.