

Excellent use of Goomba


Excellent use of Goomba


It sounds like this is a change (at least for Tesla), that Chinese state media should report so negatively about Tesla.
On the other side of the Pacific, I don’t expect that fox news is particularly flattering about Chinese EVs. But China is a massive market for Tesla, and it has stood up well while the European market has cratered for them. So this change in stance is potentially significant.
Or, it could be just a single article that we shouldn’t read too much into.


My bad. Carry on!


This post is not about ICE or PHEV. And definitely not about comparing ICE to PHEV.


Odd that it’s only a problem in the USA.


Even better, it’s 17.4% for EU, but this increases to 19.5% if including UK and EFTA


Overall Tesla Sales in CA (By Unit) 2023: 238,589 2024: 202,865 2025: 179,656
I guess it’s hard to see the amount of Teslas that weren’t bought, which might otherwise have been bought were it not for the whole “I hate Musk” thing. But while EV sales were growing in CA, Tesla sales were falling.


Tesla always sells poorly in the first month of a quarter in the UK. I don’t really understand why, but it’s very much a thing


I pay £0.08/kwh in UK. Just saying. I’m sure haulage firms in UK will find a way to access the cheaper rates that the rest of us are using every day.


Here’s your qualifications.
https://www.evfiresafe.com/ev-fire-key-findings
I look forward to your suitably sourced rebuttal.


Hopefully it’s sustained but in general it’s a bad idea to look at Monthly Data because it’s more volatile than quarterly data - heavily affected by shipping and OEM registration practices, especially with Tesla. In UK Tesla always starts a quarter slow and finishes stronger.
Edit: here you can see what I mean: generally 3000 vehicles sold in the first month of a quarter, then 10 times that by the end of the quarter



In UK, in my experience: ZapMap / Electroverse / ABRP are commonly used. Even Google reviews are used for rating charge stations.


It’s also true that explosions are far more likely to occur in an ICE fire than EV fire - EVs tend to smoke and then slowly burn to a more ferocious fire, but in general provide more warning and time to escape than ICE fires (as well as being less likely to happen in the first place). ICE fuel is designed to explode (especially gas / petrol).


I haven’t seen the evidence to suggest that BEV fires are orders of magnitude more dangerous, as you claim. I have seen the evidence to suggest that they are orders of magnitude less likely.
Yes they burn hotter and are harder to extinguish, but I understand that generally they spread slower and with more warning, allowing greater time for escape (unless you are stuck in a Tesla and haven’t read the manual cover to cover).
ICE cars are more likely to explode, BEV cars take longer (in general) to become fully engulfed.
If there is a credible evidence source / study looking at fatalities per fire (which corrects for the stupid door handles) then I’d be very interested to read it.


Unfortunately we all suffer in the long run by the lethargic pace of the US transition to EVs, because the climate is global.
Not that it’s a surprise. Remember that the US pulled out of the Paris Climate Agreement. Twice.


Remember when JLR made electric vehicles? Those were fun times. The Jaguar I-pace was ahead of its time. And of course there was the other EV (Range Rover) that was showcased in 2023 and now in 2026 there is still no launch date confirmed. They must be haemorrhaging cash paying carbon credits now.
Are you kidding me!? The super bowl halftime show failed to address the 401k values!? Unacceptable!
Thank you for your attention to this matter.


I cite WLTP because it is a standardised way to test and compare range. It’s not perfect, but it allows us to compare one vehicle to another. None of these cars will achieve WLTP in winter nor at high speed.
Also - the model Y is arguably newer than the Q6 - Juniper came out less than a year ago here!
I am in the same position as you though - generally charging stops on long drives are now driven by bladders rather than batteries.
Wind turbines, not wind mills. Also: I’m going to take a guess here and assume that Hays Ks is in USA?