And they sure as fuck aren’t going to vote in the 2026 Midterms either, cupcake.

I would love to hear your reasoning as to why you’re going to have more success trying to be nice to traitors in the hopes that they will no longer be traitors than in convincing someone that not voting against a person who actively hates America is a bad thing. I mean, you’re going to have to really put your foot into this one, because that whole premise sounds stupid as fuck.

No, I’m going to spend 2025 focusing on you idiot Democrats

Great. Continue beating that drum, you fucking moron. See how that works out for you. I accept your vote, but you will never get my gratitude, you Vichy motherfucker.

Edit: Oops - I’m sorry. According to your idiotic theory, my being mean to you means that you’re going to vote for a fascist. Please, Mr. Rational Guy, sir, please don’t vote for Trump in 2028 (assuming we still have elections by then) - I promise I’ll be really really nice to you! Fucking idiot.

See sweetheart

Ok, first of all, fuck you, you condescending fuck.

in order to win elections, you need to obtain more votes than the other team.

Hey dipshit - you do realize that 10s of millions of people just straight up didn’t vote in the last election, right? And that the number of Trump voters has been fairly constant since 2016?

Stop wasting your breath trying to coddle these fucking traitors. Focus instead on the people who didn’t give enough of a shit to vote against them. Maybe if we all loudly condemn the traitors and draw lines in the sand, we can shake a few million apathetic idiots loose in the process. Princess sugar tits.

What’s infuriating to me is that people like you like to constantly shift the responsibility for these shitheads’ behavior onto the people who call them shitheads for being shitheads. What, am I supposed to flatter the traitors in the hopes that they’ll choose to not be traitors anymore? Should I buy a sheet of gold stickers to hand out? Fuck that and fuck you for sticking up for them. They are adults and 100% responsible for their own actions.

Please enlighten me as to which cause I am lost from. I would like to know what noble calling I am failing to meet.

If you think that me calling someone who voted for Trump a shithead is “behaving as bad as [the shithead I’m] railing against”, then you are a complete buffoon. That man voted for a fucking traitor. Probably multiple times. His actions have directly led us to this state. You’re saying I shouldn’t crucify him… why the fuck not? He crucified all of us first.

You know what historians call the German people who voted for the Nazi party because of propaganda, or economic reasons, or because they just plain liked the cut of Hitler’s jib? Nazis. Historians call them Nazis.

You’re talking about fighting “the actual fascists”, but if this guy’s joined the cult of fascists, then he’s a fascist too.

Edit: also - the fuck you mean offer them a second chance? This election WAS the second chance. Third, actually. Just how many chances do you want to give out? They aren’t free, you know.

I welcome his vote as long as it aligns with mine, but that doesn’t mean he gets a pass. He’s still a shithead.

No, you know what? Fuck that. This man watched as Trump’s goons stormed the capitol and tried to overthrow the government. Those are the enemies this jackass swore to defend the constitution from. What, I’m supposed to cut him some slack because he was talked out of moral outrage by people like Jesse Watters? Fuck that guy. He deserves zero sympathy.

Yes, I certainly feel bad that the guy who took an oath to defend the constitution and then betrayed that oath by voting in a traitor is having a hard time now because of that vote. I am so, so sympathetic.

I don’t think you fully grasp the situation. You still seem to think that there are consequences for Trump when he breaks the law, and that the legal system in the US is still in-tact enough to grant you not only your freedom, but some compensation for your rights being trampled.

Yes, it is outrageously illegal for him to abduct Americans and send them to a black site on foreign soil with no due process. But he spent his entire last term positioning himself to be able to do and get away with outrageously illegal things this time around. He controls the department of justice and the supreme court. The supreme court has already given him an incredibly wide blanket for presidential immunity.

You might think “well, that’s ok - as soon as the story gets out, people will be rioting in the streets!”, but you have to remember that “independent media” is a thing that doesn’t really exist anymore. All of the major news sources in print and on television are owned by a small handful of billionaires, and he is very good at keeping billionaires on side. Any information that gets out there will be downplayed immediately, and the news will be forgotten in a couple of days to be replaced by the latest shocking celebrity news or the latest atrocity Trump has committed.

You probably would get out eventually (provided you don’t get sick and die or get beat to death by the guards or shanked or something), but you would be far, far worse off for the experience. The dream of vindication you’d get for sticking it to Trump would vanish like mist in the sun and you’d be left with the heart-wrenching reality that the life you had previously known is over, and you are at the mercy of the barbarians now.

Makes me wonder about the connotations behind Emily Dickinson’s family name…

I think you’ve completely misunderstood what has happened in this conversation, and instead of looking at it with fresh eyes and realizing you’ve fucked up, you’re doing the whole Skinner meme and going: “Am I having a problem understanding the context? Nope - it’s everybody else who’s wrong.”

Edit: Like, I get it. Dude’s from lemmy.ml, the bad place with all of the tankies. He might even be a tankie, in which case, fuck him. But I think that if you look at this thread with fresh eyes, you’ll realize that he was not defending Trump, but pointing out that “they rigged the election” is something that Trump has said continuously for more than 5 years about Biden, and so when he says: “they rigged the election”, you have to kind of assume that that’s what he’s talking about.

Edit #2: Then again, you do come off as incredibly smug, so maybe you are incapable of removing ego from the equation.

Bro - Trump has been yelling that Biden rigged the 2020 elections for more than 5 years now. He started saying that Biden rigged the elections a couple of months BEFORE the elections even took place. It’s like his fucking catch phrase at this point.

I don’t know if you’ve just been living under a rock or whatever, but the guy you responded to absolutely was not endorsing it. He was just referencing it. It’s something that Trump rambles about constantly.

Ultimately, if they both do Russia’s bidding, though, it’s a distinction without a difference. Whether coward or asset, they’re all traitors.

I’m not just talking about Trump. Nearly the entire Republican party is compromised as well. Also, there’s Elon Musk and who knows how many other wealthy, high power individuals. Obviously, they weren’t all bought with cash, but even collecting compromising secrets on them is time consuming and expensive. You kind of have to respect the hustle, even though the end result is the complete destruction of the last vestiges of our democracy.

Well I, for one, am shocked that our Russian-controlled puppet government is acting like a Russian-controlled puppet government.

It probably was incredibly expensive to buy Trump’s victory, but you can’t argue that Vladdy Poot Poot isn’t getting value for his money.

“Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest?”

Attempts on trump’s life: Not enough

Standard traitor shit.

I’m a bit puzzled by the logistics behind the “I’ll shoot you, then you shoot me” plan. Gonna chalk it up to raccoon logic.