Even just a primary…

Your pick comes in second place, if you get the one from your own party that made it to the general, your first pick is now guaranteed the office.

Like, great sentiment, but I think the reason it works in the UK, is 99.99% of the population can’t get a high powered rifle in an afternoon.

… Isn’t wanting to kill someone with vastly different views more common than wanting to kill someone with only slightly different views?

Literally two Republicans tried to kill the Republican presidential candidate in the last year…

You really can’t imagine a world where someone believes the candidate from their party is either too extreme or not extreme enough on a wedge issue that they’d try to kill them to guarantee someone else from the same party wins?

Like…

I overestimate people, I can admit that

But do you legitimately just not understand why this is bad?

It lets people know violence cannot change the balance of power

No it doesn’t.

Say you support party A, which politician B is a member of. Politician B doesn’t agree exactly with you though. And you don’t like that.

So if you merc the candidate you don’t agree with for the party you support, their runner up (who you preferred anyways) runs unopposed and is guaranteed to win even if everyone hates them.

Even if it’s not intentional, just handing the election off is incredibly fucked up.

Why the fuck would anyone support this after understanding what it means?

Quick edit:

In the last American election, two different Republicans tried to kill the Republican candidate.

And that wouldn’t have even handed it to Vance they just wanted to do it.

This isn’t a hypothetical, people kill politicians from their preferred party already, this would make political violence more common if there was any effect

Fuck Conway

https://www.newsweek.com/george-conway-defends-biden-says-trumps-gaffes-could-make-5-hour-clip-1868731

He thought Biden was fine, he’s obviously not an expert on cognitive abilities.

Like, he might be right about trump now, but so are lots of people who weren’t pulling the same shit for the last president.

There is zero reason to give Conway any attention. If you want to find someone saying trump is insane, that’s not a very shallow selection pool, you can be more discerning

https://lemmy.world/post/32308685/17988594

https://lemmy.world/post/32269627/17972357

https://lemmy.world/post/32114298/17920447

https://lemmy.world/post/30822622?scrollToComments=true

And from your link:

Interviews with a dozen DNC members revealed deep frustration with Martin and concern about his ability to unify and lead a party trying to recover from massive electoral losses in 2024.

There’s a lot more than a dozen DNC members who hate him…

He literally just got two super delegates from the Rules and Bylaws committee to resign…

https://www.cbsnews.com/colorado/news/dnc-union-leaders-leave/

They were literally the ones fucking with presidential primaries, and now they’re no longer part of the DNC in any capacity…

Like, if you agree that past iterations of the DNC were giant pieces of shit, how are you surprised that there’s still some DNC members from that period who are pissed they’re no longer in control?

Logically this is a good thing that some are mad at Ken and completely leaving the party.

This is what we wanted.

The issue is billionaire owned media didn’t want this, so they’re presenting it backwards.

And people are falling for it

What do they have to do with the DNC?

Like, you understand there’s the DNC, and then every state has their own state party, then I’m pretty sure the terrorities have them too

If your point is some people with Ds by their name are pieces of shit and need to be replaced, you’re preaching to the choir director buddy.

But Martin is the DNC chair, and he hasn’t said a single bad thing about Mamdani that I’m aware of.

Just look at the reaction to the NYC mayor race

Where?

The only thing I’ve seen is Martin told some donors that progressives can’t win every district…

Which, is obviously true

The example he used was Minnesota where one district wants Illhan Omar and another wants some shitty moderate.

But Martin is going to run national DNC like Minnesota.

1. Stay out of the primary

2. Support anyone with a D in the general

It’s on voters to get progressives to the general, so vote in the primary and get as many people as you can to do so as well

Yep.

And if elections are cancelled, I think enough people move on to the next of the four boxes.

Democrats are still attacking Mamdani

Some elected politicians with a D by their name are.

And frankly I don’t think they’ll be in office much longer.

Like, as an American who has been paying attention since the DNC defended Bill lying about getting a BJ from an intern:

This is the most optimistic I’ve been about the Dem party except for the brief window between Obama winning the 08 election, and then him saying he wouldn’t name a DNC chair.

I can go on a big rant with details on why we should be optimistic about the party and the country if you want, but if you’re ok with recycling I can link you an old comment.

It’s fucking weird to spend this much time defending the DNC, but people need to understand the chair is the DNC. And we’ve got a really fucking good chair since February, and he is already doing shit.

That’s only when the wealthy own both parties…

They don’t control the DNC anymore, and trying to make trump do what you already paid him to do is an exercise in futility.

Shit looks bad for everyone right now, including the wealthy.

Which is why the media is pushing people to disengage from politics.

Don’t do what billionaires want you to do, it’s never in your favor.

Yep. Apparently I was wrong tho, it’s 150 not 225.

No idea where I got that from, probably some upper band from somewhere.

Anyway, when trying to figure out why I was wrong, I found an old David Wong article on from before he went batshit and Cracked shit the bed:

https://www.cracked.com/article_14990_what-monkeysphere.html

Dude really was a great writer back in the day

Socialism has been the middle for 99.99% of human existence…

It’s the center. The natural organization of a human social group. The problem is our brains can only handle ~225 different individuals. After that we have to categorizes everyone else into groups which makes it easier to dehumanize those groups in modern society.

That’s how capitalism became the norm in large societies

If you’re wealthy and you everyone you interact with is wealthy…

Our brains are wired to stop giving a fuck about people not in that small ~225 circle of people.

He can go back to the McKinsey foundation…

The biggest danger to the Dem party is someone like Pete winning the primary. Hed put the old guard back in power over the party and bend to American oligarchs.

But it’s a very open field:

A June Emerson College Polling survey, published on Friday, finds Buttigieg, who is gay, leading the Democratic field with support from 16 percent of likely primary voters. Former Vice President Kamala Harris, who once dominated early polling, has slipped to 13 percent, followed closely by California Gov. Gavin Newsom at 12 percent.

Pennsylvania Gov. Josh Shapiro and New York U.S. Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez each earn 7 percent, while Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders captures 5 percent and New Jersey Sen. Cory Booker 3 percent. Nearly one in four Democratic voters, 23 percent, remain undecided.

I’ve been all for Bernie since 2015, but I hope he doesn’t run either. I’m honestly surprised to see he still got 5%, but if he does the smart thing and sits this out, I’d imagine he endorses AOC.

Because the other billionaires who own the media really really really want to avoid progressives accomplishing anything.

So now that neoliberals are out of control of the DNC, the media isn’t going to have many good things to say about the DNC.

I’d say that’s obviously, but holy shit some days I feel like I’m explaining it to the same 12 people who just can’t fucking grasp that billionaire owned media favors billionaires.

Like, could you imagine someone falling for that dumb shit and getting mad at anyone other than the fucking Nazi in your gif and the media system defending fascism

No, no…

Clearly you’re right! How the fuck could I think that Republican politicians could be bought*.

Those great upstanding citizens who always put their personal profit last.

/s

For all the money he has, the only political influence he ever had was through Trump.

No, you’re right …

I completely forgot money doesn’t play a roll in the American political system

/S

Like, what kind of logic are you using that makes you think money just doesn’t fucking matter?

Especially in Republican primaries?

I dunno, maybe there’s some I missed, but what you just said…

It’s a Republican that’s not voting how trump wants, specifically the budget.

So trump made an entire PAC to primary him, now Musk is backing him against Trump’s pac.

And apparently Musk is gonna make a 3rd party if the budget passes?

Which would be amazing. If Musk and Trump both have their own parties, it just splits the Republican vote. Regardless of policy, no one is switching from D to either of those asshats.

A snake moves left to right back and forth, over and over, just to make an inch of progress in the direction they want to go.

People ignore how many women hate women.

Lots of them have the mindset that every woman is completion, just like lots of men see it.

Women (not dissing your wife) can be fucking awful.

And just like some men can fall victim to that line of thinking and say prejudiced shit without meaning to, so can women.

Like, sure, it’s undeniable that AOC is attractive. But I’ve had loads of platonic friends who were more attractive than she is. Above all else we’re all just human, it’s fucking played out to assume physical appearance is always the most important quality.

Baddies can be more than one thing

Look around and ask yourself whether this country would ever, ever, EVER elect a woman.

Kamala and Hillary combined had zero charisma, ran policy Dem voters hated…

And still almost won.

So yeah, a charismatic woman with popular policy would win.