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Ah ok, so you seem to have misconstrued what I’ve said here and have added in your own assumptions and straw men. That’s ok, it happens to the best of us (myself included).

I’m definitely not trying to equate science with religion in every way. I just think it’s fair to acknowledge that science, being a human endeavor, isn’t immune to things like gatekeeping, resistance to new ideas, or institutional biases. That doesn’t mean science as a whole is bad or anti-progress. We’ve achieved incredible feats with science; we certainly didn’t “pray” our way to the modern automobile, or to the smartphone. All I’m saying is that, like any field, it has its challenges. And those challenges and weaknesses can be more than people or scientists like to imagine. I’m simply pointing out that dogmatism can exist anywhere, even in spaces that pride themselves on being open to new information.

The fact that you’re immediately jumping to extremes of either systemic biases in funding or absurd pseudoscience, kind of proves my point ironically. I’m a researcher at a nationally recognized university, and trust me when I say that there are many like you who seem to get their jimmies all riled up the second that someone so much as mentions that “scientific research may fall victim to dogmatism and other forms of human egoistic thought - just like religion”. It’s a strange phenomenon I’ve observed when people associate their entire identity with their specific scientific endeavors. And I get it too (and to say I don’t fall victim occasionally would be a lie). It is difficult for your ego to let go of 30 years of hard work and research, even when new data / evidence comes out to prove you wrong. It’s not easy to say “yup the research I associated my identity with the last 30 years? That’s actually all wrong”, but a good scientist is one who doesn’t attach ego to their work and remains perfectly objective. Much harder said than done- trust me.

Yeah I’m not so sure about this haha. I work in academia, and there is quite the abundance of closed mindedness and dogmatism.

My God it’s a joke

I’d say pedophilia is a tad more than just a “quirk”.

Who also have absolutely ZERO moral compass. Like literally don’t give two shits if they’re coding a piece of software going into a baby killing machines.

Taking the LSAT be like

Seriously. As an American, it’s infuriating hearing about the constant complaining about our state (completely justified worry and complaint, mind you), with absolutely ZERO action being taken. Even the most minor inconveniences people won’t bother putting up with.

“Well I’ve got a family to take care of and my mortgage is too high and rent is too much and I don’t have enough time off and “ well yeah so do I- and everyone fucking else. People have thrown fists in MUCH more difficult circumstances. I understand it’s hard. I really fucking do. But if no one’s willing to even get off of Facebook or boycott Amazon, OR FUCKING VOTE, then nothing will happen. And it will get even worse. And more people will suffer and die.

We need mutual solidarity pacts to help support each other. No one wants to do the “helping” though and only wants the support. Its just so god damn infuriating.

We all have our weaknesses and faults. No need to dismiss every relationship due to imperfections.

I’m not necessarily disagreeing with you here, but thought I’d provide a counter argument.

A group of children are dying of a horrible, deadly disease that can only be cured with the bark from a specific tree. So we go into the forest and chop this tree down to save the children from an excruciating disease.

A squirrel had built its entire home in that tree. That tree was everything to the squirrel. Now the squirrel has nothing and will suffer because we chopped down its home.

How do we explain this to the squirrel? Well, we can’t. No matter how hard we try, we can’t explain why we needed to destroy its home. The squirrel is physically incapable of understanding.

Playing devils advocate here, perhaps the reason for the need for human suffering is so beyond our understanding and comprehension that we are just physically incapable of understanding. Maybe we’re just squirrels, and human suffering needs to happen for some greater purpose unbeknownst to us.

Ew

Seriously. Some people need to relax lmao

This would be funnier without the literal text explanation and giant red circle

I see what you’re getting at, but there are a few issues with your argument. The biggest problem is that it overgeneralizes MAGA supporters in a way that actually undermines the point it’s trying to make. Yeah, MAGA as a movement backs Trump and his policies, and many of those policies have been harmful to trans people. But saying every single MAGA supporter is inherently harmful to trans people just by association is a bit of a leap. Not all MAGA supporters are equally informed, engaged, or even fully on board with every single thing Trump does. Some people support him for economic reasons, immigration policy, or just because they feel alienated by mainstream politics (most of what I’ve seen from those I’ve met who “support MAGA”)…not necessarily because they have an issue with trans people. Acting like its a monolith where everyone in it is equally responsible for every policy oversimplifies things.

Also, the categorically factual claim doesn’t really hold up. There’s a difference between supporting Trumps policies and actively harming trans people. Yes, Trumps policies have been harmful, but does every MAGA supporter personally advocate for those policies? Do they all even know the specifics of them? Probably not. You could argue that passively supporting a movement that enacts harmful policies still contributes to harm, but that’s not the same as saying every individual supporter is personally out to get trans people.

At the end of the day, I get the frustration with MAGA as a movement. It pushes policies that hurt marginalized groups, and it’s going to wreck havoc on our standard of living. But treating every individual MAGA supporter as personally responsible for all of those policies flattens the complexity of why people support Trump in the first place. It’s totally fair to call out the movement, but it’s a stretch to claim that every person in it is harmful in the exact same way.

If we want to quash this movement , we need to really think about why people support it and identify root cause so we can quell it from the root instead of just attacking the surface. And a major component is going to be speaking with people’s elephants instead of their riders. We have to be the bigger people here and try to empathize even when it seems impossible. Attacking them just isn’t going to work. That’s just human nature for ya.

Anyway, thanks for commenting and taking the time to explain yourself. I hope this at least explains my position a bit better.

Yeah idk why you’re getting downvoted. A major part of the problem in my opinion is bucketing people and making huge generalizations based off the culture wars that the bourgeoisie has created to get us bickering amongst ourselves.

She was the one who chose the stock photo

Sometimes I read certain comments that get me thinking. Are you really this dense? Or are you trying to get a rise out of people?

OBVIOUSLY they didn’t file for litigation themselves my lord

Oh boy…

My entire family had been skinned alive and I was made to watch it all. I was depressed and about to kill myself. But then I discovered Groove Life™. The first time I put them on, I felt a spiritual presence enter my heart. This presence whispered “Make sure you tell your friends and family that Groove Life™ are now 15% off when purchased with Kohl’s Cash” and I have never felt the same since.

It’s about power. At my last employer, they were making so much fucking money that they knowingly lost money on paying for these surveillance systems. They just enjoy the feeling of having total and complete control over our lives.