All this shuffling around for circumstantial reasons gets tiring and confusing.
Instead of spending all this time and energy trying to coordinate large-scale movements it would be a lot easier to just create a separate instance to be the home of the communities and have a neutral ground.
It’s not a problem with LW but aussie.zone taking too long to respond to the data being pushed. There are instances on the US that fixed this by taking initiative and setting up a system that would active pull the data from LW to keep in sync.
Why would I?
Because you are the most invested in getting people out of LW, and because you don’t trust other people that set up topic-based instances?
diverse set of mods with good track record.
Why wouldn’t this be possible in a separate instance? Is the motivation to volunteer to mod in a community attached to the instance where it’s hosted?
It’s not a problem with LW but aussie.zone taking too long to respond to the data being pushed. There are instances on the US that fixed this by taking initiative and setting up a system that would active pull the data from LW to keep in sync.
Geographical distance between Europe and Australia is also at play.
Because you are the most invested in getting people out of LW, and because you don’t trust other people that set up topic-based instances?
I trust the admins of the topic-based instances hosting the following communities, so I’m not sure what you mean?
Geographical distance between Europe and Australia
Only because aussie.zone is relying exclusive on waiting the data to be pushed. If they pulled the data in bulk, latency would not be an issue and the problem would be immediately solved.
topic-based instances hosting the following communities
Aside from mander.xyz, the other instances are not topic-specific. They have communities which are focused of a more general scope, and its users are not focused on conversations around an exclusive topic.
Anyhow, the point is: as of yet, there is no one running an instance focused on Fediverse news and discussion. Wouldn’t it be nice if you, I don’t know, volunteered to do so?
Ah, sorry, I wasn’t complete above: I meant a diverse set of mods and admins
I am sure you can find people to help you co-admin the instance as well, if you set one up.
That isn’t how lemmy and the activitypub protocol work. Source instance pushes metadata about new content, remote instance then needs to pull it. If we’ve not received the push yet, we can’t pull the additional info.
I responded to you before I had my coffee, so I didn’t realize that you are one of the admins for aussie.zone.
I will tell you what: I am 100% sure that I can write a service that can work as a bulk message relay and I’m equally sure that I can modify Fediverser’s code to make it able to ingest data from the relay. If you want to join Lemmy’s Matrix Room, we can chat to see how to best solve this.
Only because aussie.zone is relying exclusive on waiting the data to be pushed. If they pulled the data in bulk, latency would not be an issue and the problem would be immediately solved.
Aside from mander.xyz, the other instances are not topic-specific. They have communities which are focused of a more general scope, and its users are not focused on conversations around an exclusive topic.
How are programming.dev and lemdro.id not topic specific? It’s in their names
Anyhow, the point is: as of yet, there is no one running an instance focused on Fediverse news and discussion. Wouldn’t it be nice if you, I don’t know, volunteered to do so?
You want to go back to the "is sysadmin more volunteering than community building ?
First, as the last post on https://metacritics.zone/ was seven days ago, wouldn’t it also be nice if you volunteered some of your time to keep your communities and instances active?
Second, I got another admin recently who told me that I should just stop discussing with you. Maybe I should.
I am sure you can find people to help you co-admin the instance as well, if you set one up.
As stated above, I’m as interested as sysadmining than you are in community building
lemdro.id also has communities like “Microsoft” and “ChatGPT”. “Linux” is only tangentially related to programming.
wouldn’t it also be nice if you volunteered some of your time to keep your communities and instances active
They are not “my” communities. I started the topic-specific instances as a way to help the general ecosystem and to have a destination for the alien.top posts. I was hoping that would help bootstrap more usage outside of the larger instances. I may post from time to time when I find anything interesting, but I do not hold any pretense to keep all 15+ instances and 200+ communities fresh with content all the time.
As stated above, I’m as interested as sysadmining than you are in community building
I am interested in the community building, I am just not committing to do it for hundreds of them on top of the work of running the instances and on top of developing tools in the ecosystem.
All this shuffling around for circumstantial reasons gets tiring and confusing.
Instead of spending all this time and energy trying to coordinate large-scale movements it would be a lot easier to just create a separate instance to be the home of the communities and have a neutral ground.
Feel free to stay on LW if you prefer
I prefer to have a community where aussie.zone doesn’t have a 3 days delay
Who manages that instance? How do you prevent power tripping?
Yeah, a community on a topic-specific instances would never cause that, because it would only be a small number of activities.
You. You can go to elest.io and create your own instance.
If you worry about costs, I’ll be sure to contribute with a few cents per month. ;)
How do you prevent power tripping in the community you want to move to?
Lemm.ee has 7k monthly active users and several very active communities, without delays. The only instance having delays is LW.
Why would I?
You have a diverse set of mods with good track record. There’s only one at the moment, but more will come once the community gets more active.
It’s not a problem with LW but aussie.zone taking too long to respond to the data being pushed. There are instances on the US that fixed this by taking initiative and setting up a system that would active pull the data from LW to keep in sync.
Because you are the most invested in getting people out of LW, and because you don’t trust other people that set up topic-based instances?
Why wouldn’t this be possible in a separate instance? Is the motivation to volunteer to mod in a community attached to the instance where it’s hosted?
Geographical distance between Europe and Australia is also at play.
I trust the admins of the topic-based instances hosting the following communities, so I’m not sure what you mean?
Ah, sorry, I wasn’t complete above: I meant a diverse set of mods and admins
Only because aussie.zone is relying exclusive on waiting the data to be pushed. If they pulled the data in bulk, latency would not be an issue and the problem would be immediately solved.
Aside from mander.xyz, the other instances are not topic-specific. They have communities which are focused of a more general scope, and its users are not focused on conversations around an exclusive topic.
Anyhow, the point is: as of yet, there is no one running an instance focused on Fediverse news and discussion. Wouldn’t it be nice if you, I don’t know, volunteered to do so?
I am sure you can find people to help you co-admin the instance as well, if you set one up.
That isn’t how lemmy and the activitypub protocol work. Source instance pushes metadata about new content, remote instance then needs to pull it. If we’ve not received the push yet, we can’t pull the additional info.
I responded to you before I had my coffee, so I didn’t realize that you are one of the admins for aussie.zone.
I will tell you what: I am 100% sure that I can write a service that can work as a bulk message relay and I’m equally sure that I can modify Fediverser’s code to make it able to ingest data from the relay. If you want to join Lemmy’s Matrix Room, we can chat to see how to best solve this.
There is absolutely nothing in the AP spec that prevents people from pulling data from the outboxes instead of waiting to be pushed.
Hello, @[email protected] @[email protected] was this an option you were aware of?
How are programming.dev and lemdro.id not topic specific? It’s in their names
You want to go back to the "is sysadmin more volunteering than community building ?
First, as the last post on https://metacritics.zone/ was seven days ago, wouldn’t it also be nice if you volunteered some of your time to keep your communities and instances active?
Second, I got another admin recently who told me that I should just stop discussing with you. Maybe I should.
As stated above, I’m as interested as sysadmining than you are in community building
lemdro.id also has communities like “Microsoft” and “ChatGPT”. “Linux” is only tangentially related to programming.
They are not “my” communities. I started the topic-specific instances as a way to help the general ecosystem and to have a destination for the alien.top posts. I was hoping that would help bootstrap more usage outside of the larger instances. I may post from time to time when I find anything interesting, but I do not hold any pretense to keep all 15+ instances and 200+ communities fresh with content all the time.
I am interested in the community building, I am just not committing to do it for hundreds of them on top of the work of running the instances and on top of developing tools in the ecosystem.