Personally I don’t need adobe or slop adobe. After many attempts and some effort I found that the non-AI open source alternatives were good enough, or in some cases even better, once I had a more open mind and stopped expecting them to be 1:1 to adobe.
The AI denoising in Lightroom is absolutely spectacular, and I can’t find anything in league with it in open source. I’m sure that will change soon, though.
That’s basically what AI is best at: incorporating lots and lots of data points (every single pixel on an image, many trillions of pixels on previous images used to train the model) to determine the best answer to a question with clear definitions of what is better or worse on a single-dimensional quality axis that most people would agree on. In this case, whether a de-noised photo looks good and accurately represents the image that could have been captured of the exact same scene using more light or a better sensor or whatever.
It’s generative AI where things fall apart. The analogy I always use is that these math techniques are great for inferring what is between pixels in a low res image, but starts going off the rails when it starts guessing what’s beyond the edges of the image. These AI algorithms are just math, and math with this many data points needs to start considering the limitations described by chaos theory (in the mathematical sense).
i love gimp, but the trouble you need to go through to make text with outline is just painful. ive done it that way for years now and i recently learned on photoshop its just a toggle :c
Yeah I absolutely love FOSS and we should support it and use it, but also let’s not lie and glaze (albeit great) projects into something they’re not, or at least are not yet. Because then it becomes this weird circlejerk of implying that it’s just a skill issue actually, if you can’t manage to move your entire workflow to x Foss project.
This is especially true when talking to creative professionals who have been pigeonholed into a certain software or system of apps. And to pretend that this is just an individual issue is extremely dense, this is another example of capitalism providing “so much freedom and choice” and meanwhile, there’s very clear monopolies that are reinforced by industry standards, advertising, and public opinion being swayed by said advertising and conditioning.
Many people in YouTube comments, which sure I’m sure that a good number of them are bots. But even if only 20% are people, that’s still a good number of people saying this rhetoric.
Also the person above did not implicate that either. I was just talking generally.
Got it, my bad, I misunderstood. And yeah I agree, it can be extremely hard and in lots of cases even impossible to leave adobe for FOSS alternatives as a professional.
Personally I don’t need adobe or slop adobe. After many attempts and some effort I found that the non-AI open source alternatives were good enough, or in some cases even better, once I had a more open mind and stopped expecting them to be 1:1 to adobe.
I agree with one exception.
The AI denoising in Lightroom is absolutely spectacular, and I can’t find anything in league with it in open source. I’m sure that will change soon, though.
That’s basically what AI is best at: incorporating lots and lots of data points (every single pixel on an image, many trillions of pixels on previous images used to train the model) to determine the best answer to a question with clear definitions of what is better or worse on a single-dimensional quality axis that most people would agree on. In this case, whether a de-noised photo looks good and accurately represents the image that could have been captured of the exact same scene using more light or a better sensor or whatever.
It’s generative AI where things fall apart. The analogy I always use is that these math techniques are great for inferring what is between pixels in a low res image, but starts going off the rails when it starts guessing what’s beyond the edges of the image. These AI algorithms are just math, and math with this many data points needs to start considering the limitations described by chaos theory (in the mathematical sense).
i love gimp, but the trouble you need to go through to make text with outline is just painful. ive done it that way for years now and i recently learned on photoshop its just a toggle :c
I never understood when people say gimp is an alternative to Photoshop. Gimp is closer to MS paint than Photoshop.
Yeah I absolutely love FOSS and we should support it and use it, but also let’s not lie and glaze (albeit great) projects into something they’re not, or at least are not yet. Because then it becomes this weird circlejerk of implying that it’s just a skill issue actually, if you can’t manage to move your entire workflow to x Foss project.
This is especially true when talking to creative professionals who have been pigeonholed into a certain software or system of apps. And to pretend that this is just an individual issue is extremely dense, this is another example of capitalism providing “so much freedom and choice” and meanwhile, there’s very clear monopolies that are reinforced by industry standards, advertising, and public opinion being swayed by said advertising and conditioning.
I don’t know who’s saying those things. I certainly am not.
Many people in YouTube comments, which sure I’m sure that a good number of them are bots. But even if only 20% are people, that’s still a good number of people saying this rhetoric.
Also the person above did not implicate that either. I was just talking generally.
Got it, my bad, I misunderstood. And yeah I agree, it can be extremely hard and in lots of cases even impossible to leave adobe for FOSS alternatives as a professional.
GIMP is still really resource intensive. I run LogoMotion (proprietary 2004 Windows software) or IrfanView for jobs like ones I’d use MS Paint for.
Krita > Gimp
Also Inkscape > Illustrator but no one ever talks about this
For real Inkscape is fkng goated