• nothingcorporate@lemmy.today
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    2 days ago

    If this succeedes, I look forward to the following suits:

    • Law & Order vs Every courtroom drama
    • Psych vs The Mentalist
    • Judge Judy vs The People’s Court
    • Every CSI vs every NCIS

    Yeah, Hollywood is boring and repetitive, but medical drama is an entire genre and they don’t get to own that.

    • NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world
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      16 hours ago

      This seems at least a little different

      Discussions about a possible reboot of the show began in 2020, and studio Warner Bros spent months negotiating with Crichton’s estate.

      Those talks were reported to have collapsed over credit and financial guarantees, and producers began developing The Pitt in its place.

      If the show was just made on its own, and not pitched originally as wanting to do a reboot, this probably wouldn’t be a thing.

      • MimicJar@lemmy.worldM
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        11 hours ago

        This is what’s tricky. By all accounts the show started as a reboot of ER. However when you look at ER compared to The Pitt, apart from the first episode, they both fall into the “medical drama” category. The Pitt could just as easily be sued by any other medical drama.

        But! The first episode of ER is VERY different from the what you think about when you think about ER. The first episode, which is where Crichton is the credited writer, more closely resembles what you might consider The Pitt. It’s comparing 1994 TV to 2025 TV but… Mayyyyyyyyyyyybe? (In my opinion, no.)

        But let’s look at Noah Wyle. At a high level the character of “John Carter” went from a new doctor to an expert doctor. You could at face value say the character of “John Carter” from ER is “Michael Robby Robinavitch” from The Pitt and just changing the name isn’t enough.

        Except! Doctor Carter has a rich history in Chicago. Doctor Robby is from Pittsburgh, or at the very least has zero connection to Chicago. Doctor Robby is Jewish. Doctor Carter is not. Doctor Carter is rich. Doctor Robby is not (by comparison).

        The only similarities between Doctor Carter and Doctor Robby is that they are both “good doctors” played by Noah Wyle.

        This lawsuit has some merit. Which is to say it has more than zero merit. Is that number higher than one percent? No. Probably not.

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    As a response to a motion to dismiss or summary judgment, this is fine. They are pretty similar, and there’s a lot of overlap in the creative process with an aborted ER reboot or sequel.

    It’s fair to ask a finder of fact decide if they’re similar enough for it to matter, and, critically, how much the Crichton estate lost due to that. Now they just move on to the part where they can say, “Most shows in an ER are going to have this, that, and the other similarity, and Character X was inspired more by ‘Non-ER character Y’ than by anyone else.”

    John Fogerty of Creedence Clearwater Revival had a very shitty record deal, and ended up having to literally play his solo stuff in court and describe to the jury why the one CCR swamp-rock riff was different to a later one he wrote for his solo album. He won, but they are pretty darn similar: Run Through the Jungle vs The Old Man Down the Road. The case actually went to the Supreme Court over legal fees calculation, but that’s not the relevant point here. Just because we look at something and think it’s not very likely to win doesn’t mean there’s no relevant dispute over facts to resolve.

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    2 days ago

    Nooo! The Pitt is awesome!! I hope this doesn’t prevent more Pitt seasons. Don’t get me wrong I still like ER but it’s like 9,000 years old.

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      16 hours ago

      You thought they’d reboot the iconic ER and call it anything other than ER? That was a likely scenario to you?

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        Ignore the AI slop in the other reply. This is in every way but nominally a reboot of ER. Like, it’s the same people making it, and it was intended as a reboot. Literally the only reason they didn’t make it explicitly a reboot of the show is because they couldn’t get Crichton’s widow to sign off on it.

        To quote an actual article:

        Sherri filed her motion in August 2024 - one month after The Pitt began filming in July 2024 and before the series premiered on HBO Max. In the complaint, she alleged that creators Wells and Wyle initially pursued an ER reboot and, after failing to secure her approval, rebranded the project as The Pitt.

        She described the show as an ER revival “just under a different name” and called the maneuver “a shameful betrayal of [Michael] Crichton and his legacy.”

        At the heart of the case is a “frozen rights” provision in Michael’s contract with Warner Bros. Television, which barred the studio from producing ER spinoffs or reboots without his approval. (Michael died in 2008, leaving Sherri to attempt to enforce the provision on behalf of his estate.)

        Personally I’m against copyright so morally I think Sherri Crichton is in the wrong, but legally I think she has some solid legs to stand on here

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        Here’s some AI slop on the matter:

        The legal battle surrounding the hit HBO Max medical drama The Pitt centers on allegations that the show is actually an unauthorized, rebranded reboot of the iconic 1990s medical series ER. Filed in August 2024 by Sherri Crichton—the widow of ER creator Michael Crichton—the lawsuit claims that the production company, Warner Bros. Television, completely bypassed a strict contractual clause to push the show live. [1, 2]

        The backstory of how The Pitt went from a planned revival to a major courtroom drama unfolds across several key stages:

        1. The “Frozen Rights” Clause

        When Michael Crichton sold the original pilot screenplay for ER to Warner Bros. in 1994, he secured a highly lucrative and uncommon “frozen rights” provision. This clause explicitly prohibited Warner Bros. from creating any sequels, spin-offs, remakes, or derivative works of ERwithout Crichton’s direct consent (or his estate’s consent following his death in 2008). Because of this, Warner Bros. could not legally touch the ER brand without permission from Sherri Crichton.[1, 2, 3]

        2. The Failed Reboot Negotiations

        In 2020, Warner Bros. Television, along with ER veterans John Wells (executive producer) and Noah Wyle (who famously played Dr. John Carter), began actively developing an official ERreboot. The concept originally featured Wyle reprising his classic character. In 2022, they formally pitched the revival to Sherri Crichton. However, after nearly a year of bargaining, contract negotiations fell through, and she officially declined to give the estate’s approval to move forward. [1, 2, 3]

        3. The Rebranding Pivot

        According to the lawsuit, instead of abandoning the project after being denied the intellectual property, the creative team simply rebranded the show to circumvent the contract. The estate alleges that they moved the setting from Chicago to Pittsburgh, changed the character names, titled it The Pitt, and moved forward with HBO Max without paying or attributing the Crichton estate. [1, 2, 3]

        The show premiered in January 2025 and became a massive, Emmy-winning flagship hit for the streamer, starring Noah Wyle as Dr. Michael Robinavitch. Wyle has since defended the show, stating that once they uncoupled themselves from the ER brand, it “liberated the storytelling” to become its own unique entity with a distinct “one season equals one day” real-time format. [1, 2, 3, 4]

        4. What the Court Decided

        Warner Bros. attempted to have the lawsuit dismissed under California’s anti-SLAPP statutes, arguing that The Pitt is entirely original and only shares generic, unprotectable medical-drama tropes. However, a California appeals court unanimously rejected that defense, ruling that the two shows share “clear and numerous similarities”—including frantic pacing, overlapping medical crises, graphic trauma, rapid-fire jargon, and even specific character archetypes like an incompetent, brand-new young doctor. [1, 2]

        While the ruling cleared the path for a full jury trial to determine if copyright and contract violations took place, the court did dismiss individual claims against Noah Wyle, John Wells, and R. Scott Gemmill, concluding there wasn’t sufficient proof that the producers personally knew the exact parameters of Crichton’s 1994 contract. The primary lawsuit against Warner Bros. is now officially headed to a trial court in Los Angeles. [1, 2]

        Would you like to know more about the specific similarities the judges found between the two scripts, or details on when the jury trial is expected to begin?