Can’t escape AI slop projects from meat proxies man. Every single open source project smells like Claude Code recently. Sad times.
Not an ai shill but I think it’s fine that people use ai to make foss. You have no obligation to use it. And I am pretty sure that 80% of users with negative comments would not be able to program software any better i.e. more secure and fewer bugs. Ai made me a driver for a label printer to run on Linux. Code looks fine to me when I skimmed through it although I am by no means a pro programmer. I shared this on github. Shoot me!
Ai usage is not black and white.
The last one is the only part that matches the meme.
I really don’t care if someone wants to create a tool using an LLM. However, it’s hard to feel good about starting to use an application that has been vibe coded in the last month since I doubt that the author will actually maintain their work. If something works I don’t particularly care about the details of how it was made, but I do care about whether or not the tool will even exist in the near future. There’s no point in adopting a new application or tool if it’s going to just be immediately abandoned.
I got my first ever random contributor pull request for my little hobby project just the other day and was super excited about it. After looking it over and other work by the author, I suspect it could be AI written and that really took the wind out of my sails. I haven’t confirmed but I hate that I have to worry about it
Yeah, I don’t accept PRs any more from people don’t know. Low trust.
How is someone using ai to code a meat proxy? The person guiding the AI is the one with the idea?
I thought meat proxy is someone that uses AI to think , asking it everything and then just regurgitating that instead of coming up with their own thoughts or ideas.
“Guide” is doing a lot of heavy lifting there. There’s an infinity of difference between asking an AI to make something and using an AI to do the scutt work, looking over the code it made, running IRL tests, asking “why X? Why not Y?”, swearing at it like a junior dev, asking it to fix a,b,c then finally getting acceptable code.
And even with all that - when you set it up correctly - it’s still faster than doing it yourself (in certain circumstances).
It feels more like doing project management / “software engineering” than clacking the keys. It’s amazing how different LLMs approach the same task though; I find Codex to be much more by the book than Claude, for example. The Qwen’s are like Labradors - eager to please, clumsy, crash into things a lot. GLM and Kimi are different again. Etc.
You can’t let anything just “make me X, make no mistakes”. By the time you type in a ticket (with GO/NO GO gates, acceptance criteria etc) you might be looking at 500-1000 lines of text (which is why a re-usable template and procedures are important). You need repeatable procedures, acceptance tests - the lot.
And so it goes.
How is someone using chef to cook a pizza a customer? The person guiding the chef is the one with the idea?
Not sure that’s a good analogy…
It’s way worse when they don’t feel like they have to disclose that it’s slop.
It is less of a marketing for Rust rather giving it a new name: Slop Language.
Not because it is slop, it is great but the way people are using it is not very great
Piefed devs in absolute shambles. Lemmy devs catching unintended heat. Perfection
I’d hate Rust, but Lunduke hates Rust because trans people write in Rust, so I like Rust just to piss off Lunduke’s homophobic ass
I don’t know why people would hate rust. It is a fast, memory safe language. There is nothing wrong with it in itself. Its just that the fact it is significantly easier catch mistakes as it usually won’t compile if there is a problem, which makes it good for AI to use as it is harder to screw up long term.
I don’t hate Rust, but I do get annoyed by and suspicious of the evangelism for it I often see. This is by no means unique to Rust but it does seem to be seeing a very aggressive push even into trying to fix/replace tried and tested things that aren’t broken. It has that feeling of aggressively taking everything over.
Lunduke just hates it because he thinks it’s “woke”
Kids these days with their woke (checks notes) programming languages.
Those damn woke ipad kids with their programming languages and being who they are and being unashamed of being gay, how could you possibly let them be themselves?
before anyone misconstrues i’m literally gay and making fun of Lunduke
The hate is at least partly because there is and has always been a holy war over programming languages. Your choice of programming language greatly affects me. The software you write in language A (usually) can’t interoperate well with the software I write in language B. You end up with duplication of effort and many implementations of a thing, one for each language, usually more than one, with differences between them that makes things complicated. You have more choices when there are more languages, adding complexity to the making of software. I would say Rust gets the brunt of the hate because it’s new, but in 2026 that’s not really true anymore.
Fair
it’s funny to see people like him get butthurt about LGBTQ+ people existing
where giga?
A month!? A lot of these fuckers pop up just over the weekend, and then are never heard from again.
Vibe coded garbage.
My father invented the question mark
I don’t believe you. Is a shorn scrotum spectacular? Was your mother a French prostitute?
Rust really has a reputation. Not only it is associated with slop and snobbery (slobbery?), but also with efforts to steal skill and capability from the community by “rewrite it in Rust”-ing FOSS projects into projects with corporate-friendly licenses that enable wholesale project theft and enshittification.
Can you explain this? Rust is a programming language, so what do “corporate-friendly licenses” have to do with what programming language somebody is using?
This is probably a reference to (canonical?) Rewriting gnu coreutils in rust and changing the license from GPL to MIT
I don’t understand why people do that when writing rust by yourself is so much fun!
Fun?
Blink twice if you’re in danger
It does make me sad that Rust is getting so strongly associated with slop. Personally I find it a really fun language to actually program in. The language being expression-based is actually quite handy, and is a concept I wish existed in other languages too. But it is also unfortunately the most sensible language for vibe-coding too because of the performance and guardrails.
Wouldn’t it be great to master a language like C while also grasping the logic behind other programming languages? I’m not entirely against artificial intelligence, but it’s completely useless—it’s absolute garbage.
The guardrails are helpful for humans as well. Its not mindless - its the difference between an obvious compiler error and a silent use after free that becomes a security vulnerability.
That is correct; you are absolutely right.
I for one grasp C and work with it, no big deal. AI does it well too and is probably going to eat the fun-of-coding out of my job. That’s sad to me but, it’s not useless. For now there’s a lot of stuff we didn’t maintain like docs and unit tests and thanks to ai it’s kept up to date now, not that it’s very important but we strive at just doing more, not being less workers.
Yes, you are absolutely right. Regardless of how proficient an LLM (large language model) might be at documentation and coding, it remains just that—an LLM. If you write the documentation yourself, you can craft it in a way that is both engaging and humorous. I am not suggesting that we should avoid using LLMs altogether; I simply believe they should be used with moderation.
And I can’t decide if Cargo or the Python interpreter is the bigger smart ass.
Yeah well you can thank rust tools that are replacing coreutils and somehow finding their way as defaults. Eza is a prime example. Oh pretty icons but you can’t handle ls -larth, so glad you are in rust though. Rust has had a reputation before the slop.
Eza isn’t a reimplementation… it’s its own program. The name of the binary is also
ezanotls. What OS are you using that uses eza instead of ls? I have both installed and havelsaliased toezabecause I find the coloured output to be easier to read (much like syntax-highlighted code is easier to read), but I’ve never seen eza pre-installed on a system, not does it conflict with ls. Package managers let you install both. They’re different programs.CachyOS aliases ls to eza in fish, which is the default shell there. I love fish but still think it’s a bit weird to use it as default.
Didn’t fish port themselves to rust as well?
you’re not gonna get a reply to these questions, because they installed eza themself and also, separately, heard about ubuntu adopting the uutils reimplementations of coreutils, which of course does not include eza.
Slop code? Missing features? Add in some arrogant wunderkinder and strong vendor push and you’ve got Systemd.
