It’s Yahweh’s laws but the mythology has it provided by Moses in his sermons to the Israelites. As for Christians ignoring bits of it, part of that is based on saying attributed to Jesus in the gospels (e.g. the bit from Mark I quoted above) and also the simple fact that most religions update themselves as society changes. If anything, I think the Catholic church was smart to have a leader who could receive “new revelations from God”. It lets them update canon, while maintaining the illusion that they aren’t just making shit up to stay relevant.
It’s God’s law for the Israelites. Jesus was supposed to represent the start of a new era with new (less restrictive) rules to match if I understand this stuff right.
Christians say that but Jesus said “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have come not to abolish but to fulfill. For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth pass away, not one letter, not one stroke of a letter, will pass from the law until all is accomplished. Therefore, whoever breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever does them and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. For I tell you, unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven."
I’m just an atheist that enjoys the subject. None of this makes sense. As you pointed out, this is for Israelites. Jesus didn’t give a shit about gentiles. When the gentile woman asked him to heal her daughter he said he was there for the children of Israel and it would be wrong to take food from children to feed the dogs. 2000 years later and a billion gentiles think he’s sitting on a cloud waiting to hear about their day
From what I remember she gave a good answer and he healed her daughter. Matt 15:25-28.
There’s also the Great Commission “[Jesus said] go and make disciples of all nations” Matt 28. Jesus does give a shit about Gentiles but his mission was to Israel; it would be the church’s mission to bring the Good News to the whole world.
The Old Testament Law/Covenant still stands today and you have the choice to try to follow it if you want. I don’t see why you would want to because it’s “to be perfect you have to do all this all your life but TLDR you’ve already broken it so it’s impossible and you’re already condemned”. Jesus introduced a new covenant (aka testament, hence “New Testament”, also called “New Covenant” in some bibles) of grace and forgiveness, which is superior to the Old. We don’t ignore the Old as such, we just follow the New because it’s better.
I don’t see how quoting the two most important commandments negates any of the rest. It goes against when he said to follow all of them, even the least of them, until the end of the earth
This isn’t a sermon of Moses, it’s God’s law. God said to follow his law forever. Christians ignore it, but Jesus said to follow the law forever too.
It’s Yahweh’s laws but the mythology has it provided by Moses in his sermons to the Israelites. As for Christians ignoring bits of it, part of that is based on saying attributed to Jesus in the gospels (e.g. the bit from Mark I quoted above) and also the simple fact that most religions update themselves as society changes. If anything, I think the Catholic church was smart to have a leader who could receive “new revelations from God”. It lets them update canon, while maintaining the illusion that they aren’t just making shit up to stay relevant.
It’s God’s law for the Israelites. Jesus was supposed to represent the start of a new era with new (less restrictive) rules to match if I understand this stuff right.
Christians say that but Jesus said “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have come not to abolish but to fulfill. For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth pass away, not one letter, not one stroke of a letter, will pass from the law until all is accomplished. Therefore, whoever breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever does them and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. For I tell you, unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven."
Okay that’s fair.
I’m just an atheist that enjoys the subject. None of this makes sense. As you pointed out, this is for Israelites. Jesus didn’t give a shit about gentiles. When the gentile woman asked him to heal her daughter he said he was there for the children of Israel and it would be wrong to take food from children to feed the dogs. 2000 years later and a billion gentiles think he’s sitting on a cloud waiting to hear about their day
From what I remember she gave a good answer and he healed her daughter. Matt 15:25-28.
There’s also the Great Commission “[Jesus said] go and make disciples of all nations” Matt 28. Jesus does give a shit about Gentiles but his mission was to Israel; it would be the church’s mission to bring the Good News to the whole world.
The Old Testament Law/Covenant still stands today and you have the choice to try to follow it if you want. I don’t see why you would want to because it’s “to be perfect you have to do all this all your life but TLDR you’ve already broken it so it’s impossible and you’re already condemned”. Jesus introduced a new covenant (aka testament, hence “New Testament”, also called “New Covenant” in some bibles) of grace and forgiveness, which is superior to the Old. We don’t ignore the Old as such, we just follow the New because it’s better.
How does this benefit your neighbour? If you love God you love thy neighbour and vice versa.
Also what is your take on Mathew 22?
I don’t see how quoting the two most important commandments negates any of the rest. It goes against when he said to follow all of them, even the least of them, until the end of the earth