• Vespair@lemm.ee
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      10 hours ago

      Taking a stance against corporate overreach feels extremely necessary to me.

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        10 hours ago

        That is like saying standing up to authoritarianism is extremely necessary, while proposing to drop nukes on Russia. There are 100 better ways to do it.

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          10 hours ago

          Yes you’re right, blocking a single corporation is totally similar to dropping a nuclear weapon on a civilian site, you’ve shown me the error of my ways.

          Holy fucking hyperbole, Batman!

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            9 hours ago

            When looking at the relative difference between cost of your solution, it’s benefits and cost of normal solutions, yes. It is extremely similar.

            But go ahead nitpicking my exact choice of comparison instead of addressing the glaring issue with your argument.

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              8 hours ago

              What “normal solutions” are actually in progress with any real potential of happening? Be for fucking real.

              Meanwhile what insane doomsday scenario do you think would happen if Google services were banned and people had the given period to find alternatives?

              You’re talking about a fantasy solution that doesn’t exist then blowing the consequences of this possible action wildly out of proportion in gross hyperbole.

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                5 hours ago

                What “normal solutions” are actually in progress with any real potential of happening?

                Fines.

                Besides, your solution is in progress or “has better chance” of happening? Wake the fuck up.

                Meanwhile what insane doomsday scenario do you think would happen if Google services were banned

                Google runs 12% of all cloud services through google cloud. Yes, I expect a “doomsday scenario” if you just shut that down.

                and people had the given period to find alternatives?

                Sure, give people and companies 5-10 years to migrate and it will probably be fine in terms of chaos, though I would still be very interested to know how many billions of € would the migration cost.

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                  3 hours ago

                  I think people and societies are vastly more resilient that you’re implying, and would survive an admittedly complex 6 month period to switch necessary services. Would it be hard? Yeah absolutely. But I’ve never accepted “but it’s so hard!!” as valid reason to hold off positive progress.

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                    36 minutes ago

                    Progress towards what? People migrating to equally scummy Amazon and Microsoft? What possible progress could blocking google bring, that it would be worth people potentially going without paychecks because accounting sw was not working. Or being unable to access services because they register with gmail they can no longer access. Factories shutting down because their logistics tracked everything in a google spreadsheet they can no longer access and have no backup.

                    Not to mention people who could outright die if some hospital software somewhere relies on some google service.