In an unexpected mask off “secure” email and VPN provider Proton took the stance of siding with the fascist MAGA Reps. Proton’s services are no option for me and many others any longer. Let’s collect and discuss alternatives (E2E encrypted email and VPN) here 🔐👇

Always try to provide:

-Server location (jurisdiction)

-Governance

-Integrity/trustworthiness/transparency

-User experience/ease of use (grade 1 to 10, lets take Proton as a benchmark with an 8)

-Pricing and links

If you know alternative setups, feel free to share, too.

#ProtonExodus

Background: https://lemmy.ca/comment/13913116

Edit:typo

  • ngn@lemmy.ml
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    this idea of if you use a product you have to support every belief the company have is absolutely insane, like why can’t you recognize that a company’s products and it’s beliefs are two separate things? yeah the beliefs do effect the product but not all of them (especially not in this case like bro its ceos personal belief), why are we living in a time where you either have to %100 support something or you have %100 be against it? the fact that even a small political stand that someone dont agree with can turn them against a company or even a person is crazy to me

    anyway i understand you made this choice and even tho i dont agree with the reasoning ill also provide 2 alternatives for vpn: mullvad and ivpn, both dont require email for account creation and accept monero payment, you probably heard them before

    for email i suggest hosting your own if you have the time, there is this great project named docker-mailserver and its really easy to setup, but if you dont want to go through the effort feel free to check numerous alternatives others provided

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      the fact that even a small political stand that someone dont agree with can turn them against a company or even a person is crazy to me

      Why? I try not to buy from companies that employ child or slave labour (Nestlé) or drain the water supply in drought regions (also Nestlé) or companies that support fascists (Müller and apparently Proton) because voting with my wallet is the only choice I have for even a slim chance of making my opinion heard in this capitalist hellscape.

    • NιƙƙιDιɱҽʂ@lemmy.world
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      If it was just a political stance, I’d agree with you, but…it’s fucking Trump. That goes further than “Oh, it’s just a minor political difference” to me.

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      this idea of if you use a product you have to support every belief the company have is absolutely insane

      Where do we draw the line?

      I thought kissing the ass of Trump was our canary.