• Nate Cox@programming.dev
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      2 months ago

      There is a related community of people who refer to themselves as “plant-based, whole-food” eaters. I recently switched to this from a lifetime of meats and processed foods (mostly, it’s a work in progress to avoid cheat meals).

      I vastly prefer the PBWF people to vegans. Less evangelism, less shaming, less zealotry… and PBWF is actually stricter than vegan. I find vegan communities insufferable but I may have found my new home with PBWF.

      Highly recommend.

      • HappyFrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        2 months ago

        Yeah, I won’t start eating meat just because of a annoying person online, I just find this all or nothing attitude among vegans to be hurtful towards the cause of making people eat less meat. I probably won’t label myself, but I will continue to promote vegan/vegetarian like lifestyle.

      • TJA!@sh.itjust.works
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        2 months ago

        And never will be. But I guess I don’t care anymore about that label.

        And because of that I also don’t have to care anymore about what I eat. So I can eat everything again. Thanks for making that clear to me.

        This is obviously worse for animals, but only the real vegans care about that I guess🤷

        • Solumbran@lemmy.world
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          “I don’t like that my morals are too weak to fit a morale label, so if you don’t change the label to make it less moral, I’ll be more immoral on purpose!”

          What is this stupid ass stance? Are people suddenly becoming mentally 6 years old when it’s about morals?

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          Okay. And what about the animals that are STILL being killed because you “can’t live without bacon”? They don’t care that you can’t live without bacon… because they’re dead.

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            2 months ago

            The point is that it’s still less animals than if someone was eating a full non-vegan diet. You seriously can’t be this dense.

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              2 months ago

              is a rapist who rapes only 3 women a week instead of 10 doing enough?

              What if you were where those pigs are? Would you care that someone is only eating you that week?

              • Nate Cox@programming.dev
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                2 months ago

                Poster child for veganism here, folks.

                And I bet they genuinely wonder why people don’t like vegans.

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                2 months ago

                The question you should ask yourself is: is a rapist who rapes 3 women a week better than a rapist who rapes 10 women a week?

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        2 months ago

        I’m fine with that, but I was trying, but now I see that it doesn’t matter, so I won’t keep trying.