Yeah, they are looking for “early twitter”, without reflecting too much on why “early twitter” that they loved turned into what it is today. I think many are forgetting that it took a turn for the worse long before Musk bought it.
Tbh I am on Bluesky more than Mastodon. Bluesky just feels easier to use. Normal users don’t care about federation. They want the app to work easily for them. Mastodon requires a bit to get a good feed etc. Bluesky you can be lazy. Wish Mastodon had like a default “what’s hot” or “Discover” feed. Really helps find people to follow as well.
But can it really be addressed? Centralized systems will probably always be easier to use. For example, if you want to follow a lemmy community, it will be community@somewhere instead of just the community name, and it will be possible to have competing communities with the same same but different servers. This will always leave people confused, and it’s something inherent to the federated model
That’s part of the problem. Confusion like this just leads people to not engage with the platform. I suppose it is what it is and just enjoy this place while there are still people here.
To complement my previous comment, I believe the best course for us would be, instead of trying to address something that will never be better than in centralized networks, to try creating things that are great and exclusive to the fediverse. People can deal with minor inconveniences if they get some unique experience in exchange
Open source content serving algorithms? We’d need to classify the content and have a server that recommends based on the algorithm. Also, user tracking to some degree (but maybe that can be handled locally?)
Amazing to see Mastodon instead of Bluesky there ! Too many people falling for the Bluesky trap…
Yeah, I’m surprised how many go to Bluesky. It’s just Twitter all over again, controlled by a single company.
What is the social media name of clown Zuck? I feel old
Threads.
Also instagram should be shown there too as its owned by facebook.
…and also Whatscrap
It wasn’t the “controlled by a single company” part that made me leave Twitter, honestly. It was the Nazi CEO…
that’s the best part, just as twitter was sold to a nazi bluesky can be sold to a nazi too!
that’s what can happen when it is controlled by a single company
Then we’ll leave Bluesky too. 🤷
And fly to the next private one that will be bought in time by another Nazi?
If it’s a good replacement, maybe. I’ll deal with that if it happens. One battle at a time.
no need to worry, at that point the new nazi owner already has all the data they got from the platform
I think they do actually want Twitter again though. Admittedly, what Twitter used to be was still much better than what it is now.
Yeah, they are looking for “early twitter”, without reflecting too much on why “early twitter” that they loved turned into what it is today. I think many are forgetting that it took a turn for the worse long before Musk bought it.
Tbh I am on Bluesky more than Mastodon. Bluesky just feels easier to use. Normal users don’t care about federation. They want the app to work easily for them. Mastodon requires a bit to get a good feed etc. Bluesky you can be lazy. Wish Mastodon had like a default “what’s hot” or “Discover” feed. Really helps find people to follow as well.
That’a trading freedom for “convenience”
Ease of use is one of the failings of the federation that needs to be addressed or it will never have a larger pool of users.
But can it really be addressed? Centralized systems will probably always be easier to use. For example, if you want to follow a lemmy community, it will be community@somewhere instead of just the community name, and it will be possible to have competing communities with the same same but different servers. This will always leave people confused, and it’s something inherent to the federated model
That’s part of the problem. Confusion like this just leads people to not engage with the platform. I suppose it is what it is and just enjoy this place while there are still people here.
To complement my previous comment, I believe the best course for us would be, instead of trying to address something that will never be better than in centralized networks, to try creating things that are great and exclusive to the fediverse. People can deal with minor inconveniences if they get some unique experience in exchange
Open source content serving algorithms? We’d need to classify the content and have a server that recommends based on the algorithm. Also, user tracking to some degree (but maybe that can be handled locally?)
This is exactly what’s wrong with social media platforms and I don’t want to use anything like that.
You mean like Mastodon’s “Trending” and “Discover” feeds?