Insiders, including at centrist think tank Third Way, are cautioning Democratic candidates against echoing Republican talking points on trans rights.

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    So, what you’re saying is, so long as capitalism exists, trans people should just shut the fuck up and get genocided.

    Yeah, totally, a person who thinks like this gives a shit about unsheltered people and impoverished mothers. Who are you trying to fool?

    Edit: putting this other response here because you dipshits don’t realize you can be transphobic while talking for trans people with “good intentions.”

    Because trans people are the people who are impoverished. To act like these are seperate things and that one is more worthy than the other is trans erasure. Just because you know transphobia is bad, doesn’t mean you aren’t transphobic. The reason we aren’t able to forget about trans people is because they do experience poverty and shelter insecurity at disproportionate rates; there is no discussion on one without the other unless you intend to erase trans people, go figure.

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            Mhmmmm, so, what would have to go in order to stop shelter insecurity and the impoverishment of mothers, as the original commenter insisted would be necessary before we deal with trans genocide?

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                As the original commenter, I’m very confused how anyone came to a conclusion that my comments were anything but supportive of transgender people being left alone to live their lives in peace, and instead advocating for people getting upset about poverty.

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                  Because trans people are the people who are impoverished. To act like these are seperate things and that one is more worthy than the other is trans erasure. Just because you know transphobia is bad, doesn’t mean you aren’t transphobic. The reason we aren’t able to forget about trans people is because they do experience poverty and shelter insecurity at disproportionate rates; there is no discussion on one without the other unless you intend to erase trans people, go figure.

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                    Oh Jesus Christ.

                    I’m not even going to address the steaming pile of excrement that is your response, because the mentally ill people I was referring to were right-wingers obsessed with transgender athletes, and your reading comprehension was too poor to figure it out.

                    NOTHING I said referenced anyone who supports transgender people or their rights. I’m ONE of those people who support them.

                    Learn to read, for God’s sake. You should be ashamed of yourself in this conversation. I’ve been a huge supporter of transgender people and their rights for fucking DECADES.

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                If you see the homeless people in the streets, the unaffordable gas prices, and the moms who can’t feed their children, and you’re still thinking about transgender people, you’re either transgender or mentally ill.

                there you go.

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      I was literally saying the opposite of the way you interpreted this.

      I was pointing out that people who have literally no memory of ever interacting with a transgender person probably shouldn’t be focusing on whether transgender people are a danger to them, and should instead be focusing on the fact that people aren’t able to afford the basic things they need to live.

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        You mean you meant to say the opposite of this. What you literally said is that transgender issues have less gravity than those other (interlinked, interdependent) issues. It’s a narrative that also conveniently discards the reality that any queerphobia is pathologized to avoid more nuanced discussions on the material conditions of capitalism.

        Liberals often say the wrong thing trying to dunk on a perceived opponent, and they just use language that inadvertently promotes the values they supposedly disagree with. What exactly did you think would be read out of, “if you are thinking about transgender people instead of unsheltered people, you’re mentally ill?”

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          I mean I said what I said, and a majority of people who read it understood it.

          I’m sorry that you weren’t among them.

          I was referring to the right-wingers obsessed with transgender people in sports.

          And now that you know that, feel free to delete your shitty little uninformed comments that you’ve littered all over this page attacking me for expressing support for transgender people.

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            You didn’t express support for transgender people. You said that anyone who’s not trans shouldn’t be thinking about them.

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            You’re not supporting trans people. Full stop. I explained why, you’re choosing to again not support trans people.

            And now that you know that, feel free to edit your original comment to address the harm in it.