I don’t know why ml is so hated
.world is basically Reddit. They want Lemmy to be Reddit, and censor Lemmy as if it is Reddit.
If you make a negative post about .world it will get removed by their mods but they never apply their rule to .ml
And this is exactly why .ml is so hated. That comment is pure .ml propaganda.
I have seen tons more .ml posts where mods go rampage mode and remove anything criticizing Communism, Russia, China, authoritarian regimes, their genocides, .ml itself, their mods, hate on US or any western nation, brigading …
.ml stands for Marxist Leninist, and they make sure you know it.
You rarely see negative posts about .world because they get removed.
Remember the MBFC debacle?
Also we spend so little time making posts complaining about .world, meanwhile .worlders are waging a jihad against .ml
Make a negative comment about China on ml I dare ya.
This this is on hexbear via ml, here’s a whole comment thread complaining about neoliberal brainworms re: welfare in China and a bunch of people talking about how disappointing the fiscal conservatism is, one person pointing out that this type of wealth inequality is ultimately the result of government policy.
Some Lemmy instances are generally hostile to Marxists, who are more concentrated on Lemmy.ml.
Lemmy.ml and hexbear are not marxist. They are fascists cosplaying as soviet communists. Many people don’t make that distinction though.
probably because that distinction is unfounded.
Believe it or not, there’s nothing saying a communist country needs to be a one party dictatorship. It would be perfectly achievable though democracy if the majority of the population actually wanted to take collective responsibility for the country and wanted people to be treated fairly. The reason communist dictatorships fail is because they are dictatorships, not because they are communist.
Marx had very little to say about the governing structure of communist governments, but did actually describe socialism as a ‘dictatorship of the proletariat’.
What you’re taking issue with is how marxism was later applied by various political projects, but they all still fall under the umbrella term of Marxism.
Put another way: all Marxist-lenninists are Marxist but not all Marxists are Marxist-lenninists
Worse yet, they also naively censor the r-word so if an .ml user types r*tardant it comes out as removedant
THEY WON’T LET ME SAY MY GODDAMNED SLURS FUCKING GODDAMNIT
I’M A CERTIFIED RULES LAWYER I SHOULD GET TO SAY MY FUCKING SLURS
I have this dude tagged as “dumb tankie” and I have never felt more smug in my life which is saying a lot.
👍
I’ve got this user tagged as “tells people what they’ve labeled people”, and have done for a while.
Ah yes, the classic Scunthorpe Problem
The weekly .world feud post right on time.
Edit: for someone who doesn’t like .ml so much, why do you browse it enough to repost content from it? No worries comrade, they are our memes. Share away.
Oh, it’s the regularly scheduled sabre-rattling post.
He has a little star in his calendar for every month.
Yep, they even get a bunch of their posts from Lemmy.ml communities and cross post them to non-Lemmy.ml communities. That’s fine, but this is just a huge dedication to inter-instance drama.
Average .world poster trying to keep their CIA ran platform alive.
avg tankie
Can you explain what you mean?
Oh boy, another post of .world furiously masturbating over the evils of .ml
I’m just here having newly federated everything and glad to be the fuck away from reddit
welcome! there is constantly infighting here. you chose a good instance.
.world is the most ‘reddit’ like of Lemmy, and that’s not a compliment.
completely agree.
Lemmy.world is just more popular than other lemmy instances. At least it’s not threads.
It’s also where a lot of the bigger subreddits set up shop during the API thing, and to an extent the “default option” when setting up an account.
Yeah I started there myself but quickly migrated. Tried to find an instance that wasn’t filled with ideological rat poison and also wasn’t the mass appeal one.
I don’t think I see a lot of posts on lemm.ee though, but I think it’s fine?
Considering most .world users are (former) Reddit users, it makes sense they’d get easily spooked by *insert thunder noises and ghost sounds:
MARXISM! UuUuHh!!
That platform has turned quite to the right with their moderation and acceptance
Nobody is spooked by anything. Many (like me) have the opinion that Marxism is a trash ideology and so shit on the place where its ideas are traded the most as they’re trading trash opinions.
Nobody is spooked by anything.
This is just purely and demonstrably false. Not only it is wrong from a historical point of view, but it also ignores current political conversations in which “Leftists/Communists” are used as a scare tactic.
Many (like me) have the opinion that Marxism is a trash ideology
I see. What specific criticisms do you have for Marxism then?
Not only it is wrong from a historical point of view, but it also ignores current political conversations in which “Leftists/Communists” are used as a scare tactic.
Fair enough, i guess i also “fear” communism in a sense and believe that humanity must work to prevent ourselves from reaching such a state (at least the sort that is typical of it) but i don’t think that’s where much of the criticism on Lemmy stems from
I have a lot of criticisms, but I don’t currently have the energy for a long debate. However, my main criticism is that Marxism is unnecessary as many good things have been achieved and can be achieved under a social democracy.
There’s also the point on how Marxism is practically unachievable without collectivisation, which allows for the possibility of tyranny. Soft totalitarianism as i like to call it. It has gone wrong in the past and will probably continually do so.
I have a lot of criticisms, but I don’t currently have the energy for a long debate.
Classic.
I genuinely don’t. I have engaged in multiple debates about this stuff in the past though. I also outlined a couple of my criticisms, so if you would like to address those instead of trying to be snarky, that would be welcome
I’ll just point out you called Marxism a trash ideology and then subsequently called it unnecessary because of an ideology that is almost inherently rooted in Marxism.
The .world admins are puppets of the Dutch government and the .ml admins are puppets of the Chinese government
Okay, so abiding by the law where your servers are hosted is being a Puppet.
Go stir up some drama in 196. There at least you know what you are doing.
.world Admins and mods don’t follow the Dutch law. They clearly follow there personal biases and the I think that it’s okay if they where honest.
Instead of saying we don’t like you talking about jury nullification. They say it isn’t allowed by law. Jury’s are not even a thing in the Netherlands. They say they follow the law, but they just follow a ideology and are lying about it.
.ml admins and mods clearly have a personal bias and are honest about it. You can think it’s a shit take. But you know where they stand for. Like it or not.
E: mods of communities don’t always follow there admins line of course. And there are shit mods on both instance
lemmy.world user
Lol they banned discussion of jury nullification despite the fact that they have no reason to so their constant complaining about ml is moot
Hmm, no. I have many posts and comments regarding jury nullification and Luigi in general even in .world communities and not a single has been removed. .world is based on Denmark iirc and per Denmark law, it’s illegal to discuss jury nullification in regards to future crime, but not crime already committed
So in Denmark, “Let’s do [crime] and then we can get people on our side to do jury nullification” is illegal, but “Person did [crime] but I think their actions were justified, so let’s do jury nullification” is not.
Which is why their TOS prohibits all discussion relating to it lol
I wasn’t so lucky. I didn’t even post about jury nullification. Just a Luigi reference.
Better .ml than .world, honestly
There’s always someone on .world with an axe to grind lmao
It’s truly the most reddit of instances. And yet, here I am.
I started on .world to. You can be free one day. I believe in you.
You don’t get more free in authoritarian instances like .ml
Yes you do
Oh the irony.
The instance tribalism is ironic; most of the people complaining about .ml have also been banned from other communities for similar behavior (racism, misogyny, etc).
Not when one side considers using the phrases: dicksucking, dick riding or sissy to be the misogyny
I think the first two as commonly used are more homophobic, the latter more misogynist
Good thing your opinion isn’t consensus then
There’s still plenty of instances run by people willing to tolerate misogyny, racism and transphobia in the name of extreme centrism and defending capitalism.
I actually laughed out loud reading this in the modlog “triggered far left liberals” OK Ben Shapiro
If you left your ultra-white, ultra-left, and ultra-woke political echo chambers you’d learn that the terms dick-sucking and dick-riding comes from AAVE and is used frequently by the Black-American community. AAVE slang tends to mock the actions described in the insults and not those performing them.
I know all this because i actually interact with humans in the real world. I don’t sit at my desk all day, arguing about fuck all on the internet while extending my cultural and moral values to individuals on the internet like Americans who don’t know that words like “cunt” and “f*ggot” have meanings not tied to negative connotations outside the US do. This nuance is typically lost on the left and is why i identify as centrist nowadays.
Y’all know you can post to more than one place, right?
OP makes these posts on around a monthly basis, they have a pattern of posting these instance-drama related posts fairly regularly.
Nah I’ll keep my content off of blahaj as long as their mods want to legitimize trolls.
If
.ml
didn’t exist Lemmy would be reddit-level huge already.Thank god it exists then, the last thing we need is another Reddit.
Yes, thank god
.world
exists and a reminder to donate!literally no one but extremist anti-social tankies were using Lemmy before
.world
happened.Reddit already existed before .world, makeing .world completely redundant.
Reddit is not federated, not transparent, not open source. Dumb take my dude.
.world hates federation lol.
Only from those instances that like to brigade others, which is exactly why the defederation button exist.
This is the biggest flaw and issue with the fediverse and Lemmy, it’s too damn fragmented with no good way to easily consolidate content from similar, or even identical, communities across instances. So people end up gravitating towards the same few that have the most content.
While this is true, I think this post is more a reminder that .ml is garbage.
The fact alone that you made that comment proves otherwise