IF you listen to how she talks about other transpeople it’s actually horrific, she’s literally advocated for barring “Those who can’t afford it” from transitioning.
It’s not about the individual, but the principle. Deadnaming or delegitimizing someone, even under the excuse that they are terrible, opens the door to deadname/delegitimize others for whatever other reason someone sees as valid.
Caitlyn Jenner should be in prison. But it should still be a women’s prison.
People do this all the time. I was just laughing at someones comment about reddit always being right wing, then they changed it to racist and another comment was it’s the same thing.
It’s not about Caitlyn, it’s about every other trans person. If you decide one person has lost the “right” to not be deadnamed, you are inherently supporting the deadnaming of others by those that have decided they haven’t “earned” it. You are participating from a position that sees a person’s chosen identity as something that can and should be taken away. If you have any love for trans people at large, don’t treat their identity like a tool that can be used to manipulate or hurt them.
Fuck that even the nuance. If you have love for humanity at large you won’t do this. Anyone can have their identity taken away. These fuckers think they are safe because they are cis? Hey, 249609, get back in your fucken crate. Chosen Identity is for everyone, trans rights are human rights.
This take won’t break through but its the absolute truth and why minorities and marginalized people are important for humanity and empathy. Its crazy people dont see this to me.
People who sit at tables with Nazis are Nazis. Tolerance of intolerance doesn’t work out so well. Maybe don’t give a fuck about other people they sure don’t care about you. I could care less of what people call me or think about my lifestyle. Maybe I’m an asshole idk.
I’m not arguing tolerance of intolerance. I’m pointing out how using someone’s trans-ness against them hurts all trans people, not just that person. There are other ways to rebuke or speak out against intolerance.
Yeah but we are lazy fucking Americans. Plus just because that is what Pres. T said never trust that. I believe the op is more correct. Y’all gonna need to toughen up it’s gonna be a rough 4 years.
Seriously, I’m about to temp ban you. Making it worse for a minority group is not going to help or support them. This is my last comment to you about this.
Deadnaming people isn’t suddenly ok just because you don’t like them, even if they are objectively a huge piece of shit.
You’re only aloud to deadname companies, gulfs, etc. never a person. Caitlyn is a piece of shit but not bc she’s trans.
Here comes the “I’m not dead naming, I’m legal naming”.
The thought the rule was never punch down. Caitlyn is definitely doing much better than most Americans…
Thats not punching up though. Its a cluster grenade spreading hate wherever it happens to land.
Go after Jenner for the horrific behavior, not for how she was born.
IF you listen to how she talks about other transpeople it’s actually horrific, she’s literally advocated for barring “Those who can’t afford it” from transitioning.
Maybe they just don’t like the name Bruce, maybe they didn’t like the person Bruce was and actually likes Caitlyn.
Because calling them a huge piece of shit isn’t another way of calling them a name they don’t use
That would be describing them, not naming them. Nice try, though.
It’s both.
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It’s not about the individual, but the principle. Deadnaming or delegitimizing someone, even under the excuse that they are terrible, opens the door to deadname/delegitimize others for whatever other reason someone sees as valid.
Caitlyn Jenner should be in prison. But it should still be a women’s prison.
People do this all the time. I was just laughing at someones comment about reddit always being right wing, then they changed it to racist and another comment was it’s the same thing.
It’s not about Caitlyn, it’s about every other trans person. If you decide one person has lost the “right” to not be deadnamed, you are inherently supporting the deadnaming of others by those that have decided they haven’t “earned” it. You are participating from a position that sees a person’s chosen identity as something that can and should be taken away. If you have any love for trans people at large, don’t treat their identity like a tool that can be used to manipulate or hurt them.
Fuck that even the nuance. If you have love for humanity at large you won’t do this. Anyone can have their identity taken away. These fuckers think they are safe because they are cis? Hey, 249609, get back in your fucken crate. Chosen Identity is for everyone, trans rights are human rights.
This take won’t break through but its the absolute truth and why minorities and marginalized people are important for humanity and empathy. Its crazy people dont see this to me.
People who sit at tables with Nazis are Nazis. Tolerance of intolerance doesn’t work out so well. Maybe don’t give a fuck about other people they sure don’t care about you. I could care less of what people call me or think about my lifestyle. Maybe I’m an asshole idk.
I’m not arguing tolerance of intolerance. I’m pointing out how using someone’s trans-ness against them hurts all trans people, not just that person. There are other ways to rebuke or speak out against intolerance.
Yeah but we are lazy fucking Americans. Plus just because that is what Pres. T said never trust that. I believe the op is more correct. Y’all gonna need to toughen up it’s gonna be a rough 4 years.
It is definitely going to be a rough 4 years, don’t make it worse. This is a warning to let this issue go.
It’s got to get worse, everyone has to feel pain to want to change. Nothing grows without rain unfortunately.
Seriously, I’m about to temp ban you. Making it worse for a minority group is not going to help or support them. This is my last comment to you about this.