• MehBlah@lemmy.world
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    6 days ago

    “Fake news”. A term coined to describe deceptive media. In particular fox news. Now used by liars worldwide to dismiss the truth.

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      Every accusation is a confession. Facebook’s cambridge analytica, and other bs was weaponized along with micro targeting, and it worked relatively well, and when that limey journalist lady bravely broke the story, it got some press, but that was it, the bad guys won, didn’t investigate, and the democrats wouldn’t have done shit either outside the fine.

      Not quite it, the lady that broke the story got sued by Bannon. So she is the only one that got punished. She has a new book or something it’s supposed to be good she’s a real investigative journalist.

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    It is wild to me that Brave still maintains such a highly regarded position amongst privacy “enthusiasts” and websites. The godawful news about the browser, its company, and the CEO has been constant since the day it was first announced and it’s clear as water that the browser is not private nor even remotely ethical. Far as I am concerned, it should have faded from the public conscious back when they were injecting their crypto referrals to skim money without you knowing. Or all the times the CEO opened his mouth and revealed that he is a supreme piece of shit.

    And even if it was private, just the fact that it’s yet another Chromium browser is a total non-starter for me. I am so sick and tired of the ocean of alternative browsers that directly or indirectly support Google’s browser monopoly, often while proclaiming they are a great Chrome alternative.

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      6 days ago

      A significant chunk of privacy enthusiasts are libertarians like Brave’s CEO. I think there’s some level of “same team” trust going on there.

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      I remember that any little firefox controversy thread in reddit would have a “just use brave” thread going, even when it’s controversial or had negative karma.

      But since online troll farms are cheap, shoe horning names like this work for brand recognition by sheer amount of times you hear about it. And soon people start believing them.

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    7 days ago

    If someone doesn’t like Mozilla, use a Firefox fork rather than a chromium one. Brave and other chromium forks to get away from Google surveillance and dominance of web standards makes no sense to me

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    I used to work for cliqz- Burda media / Firefox startup. I was working there on a search engine which was later acquired by brave and now is labeled as brave search. This thing tracks you a every god dammed step, this is one of th core signals for ranking , irrespective of what you click

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    This is what Cambridge Analytica (the one that illegally profiled Facebook users to help Donald Trump) says about Brave:

    When you browse in Brave, the browser locally records your attention—which ads you view, for how long, what you click. This data never leaves your device in raw form, a feature Brave emphasizes repeatedly. But then it gets converted into tokens that represent your interests and behavioral patterns. These tokens are sent to Brave’s servers, where they’re matched with advertiser demand.

    This is also what the Mozilla advertising network claims they do.

    But Brave claims their ad network is truly private, while Mozilla’s is not. I don’t know if that’s true, but it is true that Brave doesn’t enable their ad network by default, and Mozilla does.

    Either way, remember to disable the ad network.
    And consider writing Mozilla a polite letter about turning it off by default.

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      They explain it a bit more in the article:

      According to Brave’s published technical materials, ad matching occurs locally on the user’s device. The browser downloads an ad catalog and selects relevant ads based on interest signals stored on the device. When a user views an ad and qualifies for a reward payout in Basic Attention Token (BAT), the confirmation process uses blind signatures to validate the event without revealing browsing history or identity to Brave’s servers. The company has repeatedly stated that it does not build centralized browsing profiles and cannot link ad activity to specific individuals.

      I don’t use nor recommend Brave to people, but if advertising is going to be done this seems like the way it should be done.

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        Maybe the right way in terms of privacy, but I find it all to be rather monopolistic. (Brave’s ad replacement is infamous in this respect; they trashed it but blocking publisher ads and creating their own is pretty similar to their initial proposal).

        I’m also not totally sold on differential privacy because, as far as I know, it’s still relatively experimental and not very battle-tested. I remember Mozilla saying something to the effect of anonynization only working if a large pool of users commit to their tests.

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    7 days ago

    does anyone have any good recommendations for ios? (waiting for the grapheneOS phone to come out) but any temporary alternatives browser wise?

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    These systems still only operate once you’ve opted into them, meaning if you just never enable brave ads or disable it, these systems won’t reach you or have any of these possible problems. Personally I don’t use these browsers without disabling everything (ads, daily usage ping, ads on new tab page, etc) and once you’ve done that it is still a pretty great option for a privacy browser especially when considering its better web compatibility compared to Firefox which still lags behind.

    **I am not saying Firefox or brave is definitely better than one or the other, I do not want to strike the hornets nest. **

    IMO, if you disable all the aforementioned features, it is still good as a privacy focused browser. And especially if you disable things like ads and daily usage ping, you won’t be contributing anything to brave devs at all and can use it just as a browser without supporting or enabling the words of their founder.