• partial_accumen@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    This is what I find frustrating with Americans … their country is literally burning down and not enough of them can be bothered to do anything about it.

    I got yelled down by a Canadian here on Lemmy yesterday (in much less kind language) that my protesting here in the USA is useless.

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      Because protesting in the way we typically do it IS useless. We need general strikes, road blockages, storming government buildings and occupying them, things that actually affect people.

      Yelling at a building and inconveniencing absolutely no one accomplishes nothing. The media downplays or ignores, like the April 5th protest, anything that doesn’t affect money.

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        The Catch-22 to that is it gives Trump and the GOP the excuse to declare martial law, as they’re already itching to do, hugely extending the power of their autocracy.

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          You’re mistaken if you believe they need a non-fabricated reason. The Reichstag will burn on schedule.

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          I believe that they’re deliberately provoking dissenters into the slightest bit of violent action so that they can do exactly that.

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        Americans have been raised on a white washed version of the Civil Rights Movement that deliberately leaves out the tactics that actually enabled the Civil Rights Movement to succeed.

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      Canadian here. Prove all us naysayers wrong! (I’m pessimistic on America’s future but I’m willing to believe there’s a chance for change)

      Keep going, Apr 19th, every day of action after, escalate until the country is yours again, instead of just for the billionaires, by the billionaires. Then let’s talk.

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        And in the meantime all you people will just bitch and moan about Americans but do nothing to help but that bitching and that moaning. What are you trying to prove? That you’ve never helped anyone before? Or you’re not willing to now? I don’t think this sounds as good as you all think.

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          We’re very helpfully and politely reminding you that we’re your friends who spend money at your attractions and your best customers that bought your stuff, by refusing to travel and buy American for now. The booking level drops and car travel drops of 70% shows Canadians banding together and acting en masse. I am out protesting too with my fellow Canadian in front of Tesla, in front of consulates and embassies, in front of city and provincial legislative buildings, and we’re poised to elect someone taking a strong but measured response against Trump rather than MAGA-mini.

          Your president is hurting us as Canadians, and your president is hurting you as Americans. This requires action on both our parts, but on different levels since this is an American problem. It seems like the first challenge is getting the public at large to acknowledge that this is a problem. I think the rallies across the nation are a good first step. Keep going and the next steps to action will come as you organize. (Perhaps a general strike?)

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            Canadians talk a lot of shit for people who were about to elect a crazy right wing populist in a landslide and only changed their minds because our crazy right wing populist threatened annexation.

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              I have to give Trump and Musk props for that, showing the rest of the world how much a right-wing populist fascist government can turn their country into a clown-show.

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      I’m Canadian and I whole heartedly support you protesting … my complaint is that not enough of you are doing it … your entire country should be marching in the streets and shutting everything down

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        I’m Canadian and I whole heartedly support you protesting

        I’m American and I whole heartedly support Canada is a sovereign nation and the USA needs to respect that. That was the idea of my most recent protest sign the idea of “Hands off Canada!”. At the last demonstration I saw two others also supporting Canada, but really there is just so much to protest that the authoritarians are doing to our country.

        my complaint is that not enough of you are doing it

        I agree with you on that.