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    Please note that NSFW/NSFL videos must be labeled as such or they will be deleted

    Edit: also keep in mind that initial information in these situations can often be inaccurate. Trusted outlets have conflicting reports about whether a suspect has been detained.

    Edit 2: the campus has officially stated they release the initial subject. Donald Trump has stated Charlie Kirk is dead.

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        For anyone who is curious but might not want to watch the video, here’s a description I found that a friend of mine who watched it says is accurate:

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        he got shot in the neck by a high powered rifle and instantly litres of blood spewed out as he slumped over. He likely won’t survive.

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        This is just my perspective, and I never wish harm or suffering on another living being, but if what/who you are and advocate for causes these things and you’re too stupid or bribed to see it and continue being you… Then, for the greater good, good riddance

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          what/who you are and advocate for causes these things

          “If someone tries to assassinate you, it’s because you deserve it”, in other words.

          Seems like a pretty dangerous stance to take.

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            We hanged people at Nuremberg for doing exactly what Kirk made his whole career doing. That’s the context that every discussion of Kirk’s death should begin with.

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    “I think it’s worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights” - Charlie Kirk, 2023

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    I’m sorry for his death. I disagreed with most of his points, I’m not event from the USA, but I hate seeing people celebrating the assassination of someone. What a fucked up world.

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        As much as I disagreed with him, I don’t remember Kirk killing millions, building concentration camps, starving people to death.

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          Don’t pretend he wouldn’t have gleefully participated in that. He was an ardent trump supporter, and thus an ardent supporter of concentration camps.

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          He wanted to eradicate transgender people from society and actively worked with the party currently performing an ethnic cleansing of the US. I’d say these are Nazi dogwishtles but honestly it’s pretty fucking mask off. One does not need to heil Hitler to be one.

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      He gets the same sympathy from me that he gave to other shooting victims, trans people and immigrants.

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      I’m also not from the US. youre right we’re living in fucked up times.

      At first, I was kind of sickened by the rhetoric in these threads too.

      The thing is, US legislative, executive, judiciary, and even the media, are all corrupt. There is no truth and no justice.

      This guy was profiting by engaging in a culture war, and manipulating anyone he could into signing up. He was recruiting people to an ideology intent on persecuting minorities.

      There are people celebrating in these threads, and it is sickening. However, I do believe that he deserved to die, and his death is much less sickening than the atrocities performed by the conservatives every day. If it were a time of war, we would’ve taken one of their generals. We are all lessened by it, but the world is undoubtedly better for it.

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        I do believe that he deserved to die

        One characteristic of fascism is the forcible suppression of opposition. By your statement which mentions that someone can « deserve to die » because of his political view opposed to your, in my opinion you’re more fascist than him. Or maybe I misunderstood you.

        So far I saw videos of him debating, asking to be proven wrong. I don’t remember any quote of him saying something so violent as « someone deserve to die because xxx ». Knowing that trump got elected with less votes than during his 1st term, in the end one might argue that Kirk did a poor job.

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          your statement which mentions that someone can « deserve to die » because of his political view opposed to your

          That’s not what I said at all though, is it.

          Conservatives don’t deserve to die, disingenuous manipulator recruiting young adults to fascism do.

          If all you see is someone debating asking to be proven wrong then you’re a naive idiot.

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            If all you see is someone debating asking to be proven wrong then you’re a naive idiot.

            After your comment, I documented myself on the techniques behind his debate techniques, watched multiple videos, found this one being the most educational : https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9O7y50cNb7c&pp=ugUHEgVlbi1HQg%3D%3D

            You were right. There is no way to prove him wrong with all those techniques. However, I still do not think he deserved to die.

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              I still do not think he deserved to die.

              That’s fine, but I think you can probably understand why other commenters do feel that way, given his profiting from hatred and the deaths of others.

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        Whataboutism. As much as I disagreed with him, I don’t remember Kirk being a dictator, invading countries, killing his opponents, etc. Remember the last time Mussolini and Putin were debating with public in « prove me wrong » mode ? No. Because it did not happen.

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    Calling Charlie Kirk a Nazi while celebrating his death. The irony. This whole thread should be locked.

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    The most interesting thing about people like him getting killed is that the it exposes just how morally bankrupt this country is at its core. There’s no morals, no values, no principles, no accountability, no self awareness, and no consistency among the populace. Social media has really fried everybody’s brain.

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    Wtf is killing him gonna prove? It’ll just make a martyr of him to the right and prove to them the left is insane.

    The way that shirt moves looked like it was pretty serious.