• darthinvidious@lemmy.world
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    5 days ago

    Still… after more than a decade where some Wired article published the exact same fucking statement about being able to break a moving vehicle and take control of steering. This is old news.

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      6 days ago

      Remote hacking infotainment stuff is one thing, but if actual vehicle controls aren’t air-gapped, someone seriously fucked up. All vehicle controls should be strictly local.

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      There was also an investigative reporter driving a Mercedes who died in an odd accident in SoCal in and around then. It was suspicious, but swept away quickly in the news. I remember believing that he was murdered.

      Edit: It was Michael Hastings. He had discredited General McChrystal which resulted in his resignation (The Runaway General). “His last story, “Why Democrats Love to Spy On Americans”, was published by BuzzFeed on June 7, 2013.” I love how Wikipedia mentions that his body tested positive for marijuana and methamphetamine, but leaves out that the coroner stated that it did not contribute to the crash. And of course the LAPD stating there was no foul play. Case closed!

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    5 days ago

    The only secure computer is the one you’re holding the power cord you just yanked out of the back of it, and even then it’s only temporarily secure.

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    6 days ago

    Is anyone actually surprised by this? It’s one of those things that any semi-competent programmer could have told you would be the case. The study just formalizes it and adds specifics.

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    6 days ago

    Laughs in old, primitive, disconnected, paid for car

    I’m sure that soon it will be illegal to drive a car that isn’t connected.

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    6 days ago

    I mean, yeah? You give anything a connection to a global network with billions of people, and there will always be a chance for it to be exploited. Hell, even my personal OpenVPN instance for remotely accessing my home servers has to fend off attacks.

    This is why my next vehicle will be a slate truck. Zero internet connectivity by default, and updates can be done via USB-C from a phone (which can be vetted as needed).

  • TrackinDaKraken@lemmy.world
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    While I’m not surprised, it’s important that empirical research be done and published. It’s needed to bolster calls for regulation. Not that I, for one second, think we’ll get any meaningful regulation out of this in most countries.

    Our best bet, as always, is to limit our technologies’ access to the internet as much as we can tolerate. Cars, doorbells, and refrigerators have no business connecting to the internet at all.

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      6 days ago

      Remotely enabling heating/cooling of my car so it’s ready when I get to it is just so god damn nice. This is only possible with internet connection, if it’s limited by keyfob range to the vehicle then it may as well not exist.

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        This really depends on Keyfob range. My current cars tend to be around 50ft, though i haven’t tested it tons past that. Prior to these, I had a Mazda Protégé5 that I could lock/unlock from 300’+ with line of sight. Thats more than enough to start/cool/heat/etc without actually leaving the house.

        Honestly, even 50ft is probably fine. Only time I can think of wanting more would be leaving a large venue and wanting it heated/cooled in the parking garage before I got there… but I’d be worried about it being stolen while running at that point.

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          Where it’s the most beneficial is when I can walk around e.g. a mall and the decide to heat/cool the car before leaving, or coming back from a hike I can start cooling 15min before we arrive at the car so it’s nice and cool when we get there. If I can only start it 300’ feet from the car, I might as well just wait the 30sec it takes to keep walking until I get there, it won’t make a difference.

          Edit: for EVs it doesn’t need to start/enable the entire car, it only starts the AC unit.