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    it’s not Biden.

    It’s the party.

    it needs a culling. absolute decimation. vote nearly all of them out. you know the very few that should stay. erase the rest from history.

    dude if a republican unwittingly says something that doesn’t call for death of trans people they’ll be immediately ousted. democrats out here capitulating to nazis. be a little republican. get them out.

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      If voting worked they would abolish voting. Both parties have the same masters.

      Keep setting Tesla dealerships on fire, the only things capitalists respond to are forced devaluation events

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        They are trying to abolish voting, see voter suppression laws and pretty much every voting rights case the Supreme Court has seen during Roberts’s tenure.

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    Oh, that’ll really help.

    Somewhere in DC, there’s a speedbump that they should name after Biden.

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    Why has the left been floundering for the past dozen years? It doesn’t feel like the common man has anyone to represent us.

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      Take your pick/all:

      $$$/ lobbyists/ citizen united/ Dems deepthroating Corpo influence/ dinosaur leaders pruning any progressive candidates

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    What a weird coincidence that, just as AOC and Bernie begin a wildly successful tour of the country, we start hearing about the Biden’s wanting to help lead the party or Kamala being the the top choice for 2028.

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    Fark off. We’re not giving you guys a goddamn thing. You are WAY too comfortable with doing nothing and compromising with 100% concentrated evil. I’ll be voting for candidates who were born AFTER the Battle of the Bulge.

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      You’re getting downvoted but your comment prompts a thought. Would trump 2020 be as dangerous as 2024 trump? The time spent planning and organizing on their part has led to an extremely quick response in destroying this country compared to what happened in his 1st term

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        I’ve been saying this and it’s an unpopular opinion… it honestly would have been better if Trump had just won in 2020.

        Yes, COVID would have continued to be a disaster but we wouldn’t have the J6 experience, he would still have a few of the old guard people keeping him in check, and he wouldn’t have Elon Musk on board with him.

        Most importantly: he would be blamed for the post-COVID shit that was his fault, rather than Biden taking the heat for not fixing the disaster Trump left him. The selective amnesia that settled over half the population from 2021-2024 would not have happened.

        And we would be fucking done with Trump by now. My god, imagine that. He flies away on Jan 20, 2025 and we never have to hear from him ever again. Wouldn’t that be heaven?

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        If Democrats were the opposition party during the genocide you wouldn’t get online liberals justifying it and ridiculing anyone opposed to it. The Democrats would have probably won in 2024 too.

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          Yea thank allah we got trump in there now. He will find a place for the palestinians. Somewhere near Trump hotel. They will be the foundation of his Christian Empire in the middle east. Inshallah.

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    It honestly feels like the Democratic Party is doing everything they can to lose.

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    30,000+ people showed up today for the Bernie/AOC rally today in Colorado.

    If only there was a way forward…… Says the Democrats

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      Bernie isn’t what I would call a spring chicken

      It would be nice to have someone who doesn’t look like they are going to die any second.

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      Bernie the sheep dog is not the way forward.
      Can’t even bring himself to say the world genocide.
      That horrible regime party can’t be fixed.
      As long as Americans don’t vote 3rd party they get what they deserve.

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        As long as you hyperfixate on a single issue that’s over there, it’ll be hard to win over here.

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          It is only genocide, no biggie. It is not like Palestinians are people.

          Just remember this the next time you wonder why certain demographics don’t want to vote Democratic anymore. Someone’s single issue is another’s family and friends.

          By your logic why “hyperfixate” on anything? The environment, democracy, human rights and so on, are each a single issue. By the looks of it [some in] the Democratic Party aren’t stopping at abandoning Palestinians either: Gavin Newsom breaks with Democrats on trans athletes in sports. “It is a single issue, don’t hyperfixate on it”, will be the rallying cry in 2028 I’m sure.

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            The USAID that used to feed Gaza is gone, nothing is coming into replace it. People are going to starve to death. Not that you cared about that. Doesn’t run with your narrative. Just like hamas stealing the USAID to sell back to starving palestinians. Doesn’t fit the narrative.

            If you understood how government worked and cared about palestine you’d be VOTING for a senator and house rep who will defund isreal. But noooooo lets not have any strategic goals in mind when elections come around. Lets virtue signal and seethe and concrete the genocide you’re screetching about.

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              Israel is intentionally blocking aid into Gaza. Hamas has nothing to do with it. The termination of USAID also has nothing to do with it. Aid trucks are stuck at the border not allowed in.

              FYI I voted for Jill Stein. No Democrat, at least on my ballot was going to defund Israel.

              Edit: I missed adding that the Biden administration already cut funding to the UNRWA, so starving Palestinians is bipartisan:

              https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/us-unrwa-funding-already-halted-2024-not-by-trump-2025-order-2025-01-28/

              https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/3/22/moral-failure-us-house-approves-bill-that-would-ban-unrwa-funding

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                Oh. You voted for a different Putin puppet whose party has made no attempt to run a real campaign in the US and clearly (and vocally) had no intent on winning. Very helpful.

                EDIT: Oh. I see that you are a tankie from the grad. Bad faith to be expected.

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                  A few things:

                  1. Neither major party was opposed to the genocide or had any intention of stopping it.
                  2. You could add all third-party votes, not just Stein’s, and Harris would still lose to Trump. That is if you assume that Kennedy and Oliver too stole votes from Harris.
                  3. Criticizing an Arab for voting for a Jew is peak antisemitism.
                  4. Anyone I don’t like is a Putin puppet. Harris is also a Putin puppet. How else would you explain her purposefully choosing to throw away the election?
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                The president does not authorize spending. He just executes the spending. Congress has power of purse, they are the only ones that can cut funding for Isreal. Which i fully support. I would be happy to cut aid to isreal and increase aid to palestine. Happy to help protect palestinian land from Isreali encroachment. I am an ally you are alienating with your harsh views. We probably agree on a lot of things that would benefit palestine. I think without a practical method to acheive them you will never see your goals fullfilled politically.

                Mostly because you voted third party for president not knowing that you meant to vote for congress.

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          It’s not a single issue, he is also a warmonger and cheerleader for all the US wars among other things.
          Or do you mean everyone should just ignore al that inconvenient horrible stuff bcs that’s somewhere else and doesn’t affect them personally?
          The true lib way.

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    Bernie and AOC are the new direction. Biden wants back in to stop them. Fuck Biden!

    Make no mistake:

    This is not “help.” This is the neoliberal fascist collaborator backlash against help.

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    Remove the dinosaurs. Where are the strong confident aggressive lefties at? We need more Bernies!

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    Oh my fuck.

    get out

    get the fuck out, Biden

    You lost the whole show, you simple fuck. You handed the republic to the fascists. You did NOTHING to stop them. You shook his fucking hand and gave him tea. You couldn’t campaign to save your own fucking life, and your meddling played a major role in your successor failing (though Harris does not get a pass here either). If I never see your name - or the Clinton name, for that matter - ever again in my life, it’ll be too soon.

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      No, no. It’s worse. They did more than nothing. They specifically held back from prosecuting him because they wanted to run against trump. So Biden could attempt to stay in power by saying “oh it has to be me I’m the only one who’s beaten him.”

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          It’s been a while and searching for old news including the words Biden and trump is basically impossible, but I do remember seeing a like DOJ memo or something to hold off on persecuting. While it did not say the reason I listed above, I can’t imagine much other reason to do so and it’s not like they’ll come out and admit it was for that reason.

          Edit: and post I remember commenting on about it two months ago was deleted from politics…. so… can’t find it that way.

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            Thanks for the added context. If they did intentionally delay prosecution (plausible considering how much time they had to do it but didn’t) then that’s pretty hard to excuse regardless of the reason.

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          It’s not hubris though. They know what they are doing and they don’t care because they won’t be the ones hurt by it. They would legitimately rather Trump be president than win by having to adopt any kind of actually progressive policy. This is what all of their actions have shown us. Don’t give them a pass for incompetence, they are just as culpable for the situation we find ourselves in today.

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          Agreed.

          It’s wild that Biden’s arrogance and conceit was a more important concern than winning the election. Everyone around him knew his brain was fucked.

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            He’s probably more like a young child emotionally right now from mental decline, shouldnt have been allowed to be president.

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    I suppose he had to offer, it was his support of Israel murdering Palestinian women and children that lost Harris the election, but I think it’s best for Joe to have a quiet retirement.

    Maybe, in time, we’ll remember him fondly as Obama’s VP.

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      I really want to get into this opinion. You really believe the 2024 election broke to republicans favor over Palestine? If you are one of the voters that advocated for not voting, are you happy with the result? Is palestine now better off due to trump?

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        I’m not American. Palestine wasn’t the only reason, but it certainly lost Harris the Arab vote and Trump only just scraped through.

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          A bold gambit. Let’s see if they can survive 4 years of extra judicial ICE deportations. I don’t envy anyone of middle eastern decent if we start a war with iran. Scapegoats just like 2001 but with way less civil rights. Should be fun!

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      I read through that whole thing. What is the demand? It’s just general hate against the trump administration? I’m all in favor but unless the strike has specific legal actionable demands what is the point? Even under the “demands” section of their FAQ it lists a bunch of vague “good” things that they want (all of which I’m in favor of) but says it won’t get into specifics until later.

      You do the strike, it panics the ruling class, and then what? There’s nothing they’ve been informed of that they can do. No line that tells them “you can put an end to this if you do XYZ”. Nothing to tell the people whether the strike succeeded or failed. What will that get? A bunch of people who conclude that the strike didn’t work and they need food so they go back to their jobs. Next time the strike comes around, even if it has demands this time, the obvious thought is that it didn’t work last time so why would it work this time and distrust in the people and political ideology that started this strike in the first place.

      In my opinion, a movement like this is defined exclusively by their policies and demands. Without those it’s just people throwing a tantrum.

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        Their documents specify that they will have meetings with their sign ups to finalize the list of demands.

        So join the discord and join their meetings and ask away.

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        Its just some tankie astroturfers celebrating the fall of the entire USA and all its people.

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      I understand that they probably don’t want to lock themselves into a timetable, but arranging a general strike without a date chosen seems like it is an uphill battle at best.

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        They have a timeline they want to work with.

        0-6M signatures is just organizing/coalition building and figuring out skillsets.

        6-10M signatures create demands and plan events, work on strike dates, keep organizing, more outreach.

        11M signatures strike on the chosen day, mutual aid networks work to support strikers, educate new strikers and volunteers.