• HubertManne@piefed.social
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    Man I figured this was paraphrased because I can’t trust a headline nowadays even if it used quotes but nope. Used those exact terms in that way. Says to retake flag energy. Fuck that nationalist shit. Definately need to redefine patriotism around the constitution and civil rights but sure as shit not around the flag. The flag is a symbol of the ideals that should be respected not a thing itself to respect.

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        I think patriotism is fine if your espousing a good functioning system. Patriotism for patriotisms sake is the issue to me. Its like every time I see a god bless america sign I want to get a sign that says americans be deserving of gods blessing. Your country is not good because of the name of your country but if your country is good if its actually free and equitable.

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        National pride can be a powerful motivator towards doing good. The belief in a nation as a group of people working towards a common goal is fundamental to collectivism.

        When patriotism turns into nationalism, that’s where it becomes toxic.

    • RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works
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      First, if patriotic imagery works when it comes to campaigning why shouldn’t they do it? Why not adopt winning tactics?

      Second “ She said Democrats should stop using the term ‘oligarchy,’ a phrase she said doesn’t resonate beyond coastal institutions, and just say that the party opposes ‘kings,'” wrote Wren, who reported that Slotkin was planning to deliver a series of speeches in the coming months about her plan.”

      that sounds a lot more like suggesting we don’t talk over the heads of the voters than suggesting we shouldn’t confront the problem. Do you take issue with this?

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        I think after decades of the term “oligarch” being used in popular culture and nationwide news coverage, people in the “forgotten middle” know what oligarchy is. She’s doing the exact thing “liberal elites” get accused of doing all the time which is insulting her constituents’ intelligence.

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        just say that the party opposes ‘kings,'”

        This is incredibly dangerous

        It argues that a pseudo King like Trump is the problem. That is a lie. It is the oligarchs who prop up dictators like Trump who are the problem

        This is an issue of systems, not of individuals. She’s intentionally trying to individualize a systemic issue. This is because she serves those oligarchs and is protecting them by attempting to scapegoat Trump.

        We must reject this

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        Kings are single actors. Oligarchy is a group which includes corporations. She is part of a pro business caucus and she is one of the worst zionists in the party. Can you stop trying to whitewash her? She is a monster who needs to be removed, not understood.

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          You think kings are singular actors? Have you ever studied any real life monarchy closely? That’s an inaccurate claim.

          Im not trying to whitewash her I am addressing the errors in your comment.

          Stop trying to claim moral high ground we are not arguing here. You made an extremely ignorant comment that was completely incorrect and all I am doing is pointing that out. You shouldn’t be this proudly incorrect

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        its just chasing the ignorance and redefining. They have assigned me to woke that is all about trans and such as opposed to realizing we don’t have a free and fair and functioning system. Maybe they can get other times of voters but talking to dumbed down will alienate my kind.