• Guidy@lemmy.world
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    Parents worry about their kids. All mammals I’ve ever heard of do this. So when you tell human parents that they can have a better chance of finding their kids if their kids are missing, injured, or abducted, that’s going to appeal.

    I don’t believe it’s about sUrVeIlLaNcE at all.

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    I swear these are apple guerrilla marketing articles. Air tags in the shoe is so stupidly expensive for the task.

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    If you need to spy on your kids to keep tabs on them, you’re a shitty parent. You should be able to discuss enabling Find My (assuming they have an iPhone) on their phone and why that’s required (by you) openly.

    Too many inept people have children. That’s a large part of why society is in such decline.

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      Hey asshole, special needs kids are big and strong and smart enough to get themselves out in the world and need ways to get to them to keep them safe. There are plenty of reasonable reasons for tracking tech for your kid that aren’t helicopter parenting.

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        Hey asshole

        What an unnecessary and disproportionately rude response to what they’re saying.

        special needs kids

        Special needs is not something every person out there considers daily along with its ramifications for you to be attacking whoever forgets when it’s not part of their lives when it only affects a small fraction of school-aged children. Even I forget, despite growing up with a non-verbal autistic kid, and even then he wasn’t running around getting in trouble for me to even consider this scenario.

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    Is there an open sources solution for GPS tracking devices that size? Because I feel like we need something to counteract people willing to trust Apple to track people and things everywhere.

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      “It says his left shoe is supposed to be here, but all I see is his right shoe! How is this possible!?”

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    I’m not concerned with tracking where my kids are with these, but tracking their shoes sounds kinda useful. Average daily conversation in my house:

    "Where are you shoes?"
    "I don't know?"
    "You were just in the middle of putting them on!?!!"
    "Yeah but... I can't find them now."
    "How? You had them in your hands?!?"
    "That was, um, before I got distracted."
    "*sigh* Let's go try and find them."
    
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    14 hours ago

    be kid

    find this in your shoe

    get idea

    catch seagull

    tie airtag to its foot.

    go see mom having a fit

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    Kids have a distinct advantage in this ongoing consumer tech war between parents and kids.

    I don’t use TikTok, but I’d be pretty surprised if this wasn’t already starting to trend there, along with ideas for where to put the airtags to fool parents.

    Maybe just… talk to your kids?

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    showing my age but when I was a kid during the summer or on weekends I’d be out of the house all day and just where ever in my town. My parents didn’t care as long as I was either home for dinner or by the time the street lights came on. and if I wasn’t home for dinner I had to find a phone and call not because my parents would be worried but so they either wouldn’t have to cook as much or set out a plate for me.

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    “Surveillance-minded” (hereafter, “Helicopter”) parents were almost certainly already doing that.

    It just required a sharp knife and a tube of contact adhesive previously.

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      I was under the impression this is the main selling point of AirTags. Is there a real market for tracking lost luggage? I see AirTags being sold in every Kid’s store around here.

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        My dog has one on her collar. She got lost once, after chasing a squirrel, so it was a no brainer. The cool thing is that you can make it go off, by pressing a button, and train the dog to come to you when it chirps. I hope I never need to use it in an emergency, but it’s good to know I’m prepared.

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          Isnt that chirp kind of loud to be right next to their really sensitive ears? Ive only heard a 3rd party one chirp and it hurt…

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            The AirTag chirp is not that loud. Yes if you held it right to your ear canal it might be uncomfortable but the distance from neck collar to ear I wouldn’t worry about.

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              That makes me feel a little better. Dobt they have much more sensitive hearing than we do though?

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                Any dog’s bark is significantly louder than an AirTag chirp. It’s fine.

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        I have one in a very well hidden pocket in my backpack. Because it’s my gig bag, and goes with me when I’m working in the field. If I were just leaving it under my desk all day, I wouldn’t bother. But since it often ends up sitting in the corner of a random room while I run around a building, it has an AirTag buried in it.

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      Some shoes even already had compartments in them and came with a toy car that fit in there

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      Young children should absolutely not have a phone, unless I suppose it’s completely locked down to chat apps and the tracking I suppose…

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        My little sister has a phone I set up for her. It has no internet browser, requires permission to download apps, no voicemail, blocks unknown callers, and turns off at 9pm with the exception of contacting family or emergency services.

        Phones can be safe for kids if parent just put in the time to learn about parental safety systems and implement them.

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        More and more governments issue warning about the effects of screens on baby, toddler, and child brain development. The age the Netherlands puts forward now is 14 to have a smartphone, and no screens or very limited until 3 years of age.

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            They issue is less the screen than it is the lack of long-form entertainment. Kids paying attention to an hour and a half movie plot on the screen isn’t the same problem as scrolling through endless 30 second videos or accessing social media.

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            The TV is also bad, but smartphones are literally slot machines in the child’s pocket that keep giving them dopamine hits. It’s many times worse for the brain.

            There are parental controls etc. But the nature of the device is addictive with its notifications and the likes.

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        Learn to use the tools to protect your kids. iPhones and Android can absolutely be locked down for children. Or just get an apple watch or flip phone. All better than a fucking airtag.

        My kids got an apple watch, locked down during school hours, etc.

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          Better for what purpose? If you’re on holiday in a busy, foreign city, an AirTag for location tracking is much cheaper than this other options.

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            AirTags rely on being able to piggyback off of other iPhones to report their location. They are not a self-contained device, merely an appliance. If you give your kid a smartwatch with cellular or a full-fledged phone, you can track where they are but also they have the ability to contact you/be contacted if need be. Sure, there are drawbacks to such choices, but that is what being well-informed as a parent is all about.

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      Bonus points if they had the hard plastic instep so you could grind with them like Soaps.

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        I’m pretty sure you can’t track them through the network. You can’t say “track this air tag wherever it goes”.

        But you could use a device to track the signal the air tag emits as long as you’re in range.

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            I don’t know myself, but it probably wouldn’t be too difficult to track the change. Just look at when tracker abc disappears and when tracker xyz takes its place. Unless you’re in an area with lots of trackers, it wouldn’t be too difficult to weed out the target tracker.

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              you’re almost always in an area with lots of trackers: every iphone, apple watch, lots of airpods, and macbooks all have UWB-based tracking in them these days

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        If not, then cool, your parents can give that info to your creepy uncle Steve. He’s just gonna pick you up from school one day. Better hope he doesn’t bring his white van.