Should have thought about that when every Democrat was telling you that Trump and his tariff plans and project 25 was going to screw the average American at the grocery store.
Sorry but Americans, including myself, get what we collectively voted for.
Please love yourself enough to realize that you don’t deserve collective punishment.
i got 2 bags of groceries at cub yesterday and it was 180$.
there was meat in there. sure. but like…damn.
Eat the rich. This solves two problems.
- Food
- Now the rich are gone you can redistribute the wealth and start fixing this shitty system.
Sounds modest
Sensible, even
I like this proposal.
As much as I enjoy the “eat the rich” sentiment, it’s not really a fix to the issues.
The median net worth in the US is around $200,000.
If you took ALL the money in the US, from every single person and distributed it equally, it would only bring that number up to around $500,000.
Sure that’s a decent bump, but if you only targeted billionaires and high millionaires, it would be a hell of a lot less. The vast majority of that bump actually comes from random boomers having a million dollars each saved up.
The top .1% of US households hold over $20 trillion dollars in worth, and you’re talking about going after the million in retirement savings accounts that were built up to provide an income for the elderly (because social security alone isn’t enough, like it was supposed to be)? And 1M may not be enough if they live long enough or have serious medical issues because that’s another problem that we don’t dare fix with better distribution of resources.
$20 trillion divided by the US population is only $60,000 each, that’s well under a years worth of the median family income. As a one time transfer, that’s not doing almost anything to the economy long term.
The amount per year that these wealthy people generate is significantly less, so taxing them to prevent it in the future also wouldn’t really give other people that much money.
I’m wasn’t talking about going after anything, I was just pointing out that the rich don’t actually hold that much money in the grand scheme of things, and removing them won’t actually fix the issues we’re seeing.
That’s dividing by every woman, man, and child. It almost certainly wouldn’t be done that way. You absolutely wouldn’t give children $60,000 checks. And why are you comparing your $60k number to household incomes (which are pooled values)?
Even if it were done this way nominally, you’d have a household with two parents and two kids receiving $240k in a one-off payment, and then presumably you’d correct the tax structure so as to not wind up with the same equality gap so they’d pay less in taxes.
I don’t know what you think the average US household looks like, but nearly a quarter million dollar direct cash infusion would change a hell of a lot about most people’s lives.
EDIT: I think if we weren’t talking in complete hypotheticals here too, you’d do it by taxing the rich rather than eating them and directly redistributing their money. Even $10 trillion would be enough to fund a lot of government programs that could get to work fixing things for the people.
You could take out all the people under 18 and it ]would still only be $76,000.
Humans are terrible at understanding large numbers. 20 trillion sounds like a lot, but to 262 million people it’s STILL less than the median family income per year.
And that $20 trillion isn’t how much these rich people make per year, in fact, it’s not even really money. That’s almost all the value of the shares these people own in companies, which you can’t just convert to cash at the market value when you’re talking about that quantity. If you took all these shares and sold them off, you wouldn’t get that price, who’s going to be able to afford that? There isn’t enough available cash with other people for $20 trillion worth of shares all hitting the market at the same time to value them at $20 trillion.
If instead you gave each person you’re splitting it to part of the shares, they wouldn’t be able to eat them, they wouldn’t be able to live in them, and if they all decided to sell them off… same problem as before, significantly less value. They would all get bought up by the remaining wealthy people who actually have excess cash available, for much cheaper than they’re worth and then you have the same problem you had originally except now instead of the top 0.1% you’ve got the top 4% or something.
At the end of the day, there are far better options for improving the lives of people than just taking all the money from the 0.1% and giving it directly to everyone else. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t care about these people at all, eat them if you want. Just don’t believe it’s going to make your life measurably better, because it won’t.
So now because I debunked your bad math, we’re going from “it’s not enough money to make a difference” to “it’s not liquid”.
I agree, it isn’t all liquid, and you can’t eat stock shares. But I’m sure you could do an awful lot to solve the “housing crisis” if you took over all of Blackrock’s real estate holdings and handed them out to people that were looking to live their lives in a house instead of trying to squeeze money out of a crisis for their own profit.
That’s just a first, easy example of good that could come out of a hypothetical redistribution of resources. There are countless others.
You didn’t de-bunk shit. It’s still not enough money to matter if you ignore children and it isn’t even money, both are valid criticisms of your idea.
Bringing up BlackRock is just stupid. Blackrock is an investment management Corp, they don’t just manage the wealth of a few billionaires. You can go buy into their products right now starting at around $100 for ETFs if you want, and there’s plenty of non-rich people who are part of that $11 billion that they manage. Suggesting you can just go take all their real estate holdings is the same as saying you’re going to go take the money of grandma and grandpa, and while I’m not saying that’s necessarily bad it’s not in line with your “eat the rich” proposal.
The housing crisis is NOT being caused by corporations buying up houses. The housing crisis is being caused by the fact that our system allows ANYONE to invest in houses at all. The vast majority of houses in the US are owned by the family that lives in them, and those people benefit from houses appreciating just as much as wealthy people do. Until we stop houses being an investment for EVERYONE (which does include corporations) the housing market will continue to get worse. If you block companies from owning homes, and even if you block people from owning more than one or two homes, you will still have house prices go up because people still want houses. If they continue to go up faster than wages increase, they will always become increasingly unaffordable.
To fix this, houses MUST lose money. You must never make money off simply living somewhere because the value of the land went up around you as the population grew and new amenities attract more people.
Whaaa-? But i thought over half yall voted for Trump because he would for sure lower grocery prices??
Trump even said it himself. “We won on groceries”. Seems like he only cares about cheating at golf and saving pedophiles
Only half vote so more like 20%
https://thiswillhold.substack.com/p/ex-cia-whistleblower-the-nsa-audited
Maybe 23%
I pay between $75 - $150 a week for groceries as a single dude that only shops for himself. On a monthly basis that’s my highest expense besides rent at about $300 - $400. That’s how much my parents used to spend to shop for a family of 7 back in like 2010. The federal minimum wage back then was $7.25 an hour and even then it was still a struggle. And here we are 15 years later and the federal minimum wage is still $7.25 an hour.
Back when the federal minimum was raised to $7.25 you could still feed 3 people well at a cheaper restaurant for $15. Now I dont think you could feed one person well for $15 at any of the same kind of restaurant
A few days ago I saw a story of a woman making $3 an hour plus tips at waffle house, where the average tip is probably like $2 a person. In 2025. How the fuck is that woman surviving whatsoever? The amount of normal everyday hardworking people who will be impacted by the SNAP cuts is going to be enormous. Especially with everything quickly becoming 2x what it cost 6 months ago
Yeah, it’s crazy working as a server now. $2.15/hour plus tips. You have to be somewhere that makes good tips. The law only guarantees that you will make at least $7.25/hour and the restaurant is supposed to pay you to that average only if tips don’t get you to minimum wage.
I am in roughly the same boat.
$600 for rent + utils, cheapest, roach tier studio I could find, but I somehow lucked out and got a management team that, though they’re not exactly flush with cash, they do genuinely give a damn about the stuff they can actually afford to handle, throw out the dipshit trouble maker types pretty quick.
So, slightly higher rent, but I manage to get my food costs down to roughly $250 a month, so its about the same total monthly spend.
But, yeah, holy fuck, if the min wage had kept up with housing costs, so an FT min wagie could afford a studio, 1/3 rent to income rule?
It’d be between $30 and $35 an hour.
That’s how fucked this all is, the US median wage is roughly what the minimum wage should be, if you want a … basically functioning society where 2/3rds (thats about the paycheck to paycheck % now) of people are not one disaster away from becoming homeless.
So, of course, instead, its now literally illegal to be homeless, and Trump wants to build concentration camps.
People are either gonna let this happen, or they’re gonna … perform an executive override on the situation.
If I may ask, where are you that rent is 600? Or is this a roomate situation?
Hahaha…ha.
Hah.
…
Short answer: South Dakota.
Long answer:
Following a uh, calvacade of compounding catastrophes, several years ago now, I ended up homeless, roughed it for a good long while, got the shit kicked out of me in one way or another on roughly a biweekly basis, got held hostage by a fentanyl addict for a week once, barely escaped that alive, almost froze to death, almost died of heat stroke…
… eventually got SSDI to kick in, after continuously struggling to stop having all my ids and paperwork stolen from me…
…and I correctly deduced that Trump would win, and the big west coast city I used to live in would soon be cracking down hard on the homeless, as well as Oops! no more funding for homeless shelters that are already at max capacity…
So, when the SSDI kicked in, I got on a bus and headed as far as my those bus wheels and my broken body could carry me, which ended up being South Dakota.
Pretty fucking low CoL, and I am still just full time doing PT to recover from all my injuries, so… not like I’m missing much by not living somewhere else.
Immensely ironically, this shit ass roach motel, that was literally a roach motel and now just… does 6 month, year, month to month leases?
Only place I have ever lived in my entire life that just came with an AC unit.
My ‘long term’ plan is somewhere in Minnesota… by every study and composite map I can see, its basically the best combo of a decently blue state, with decent CoL, and lots of fresh water, and a pretty low expected increase in climate disasters.
In summary: God Bless America.
Eggs are back at $7-10/dz in the Boston metro area :D
What’s your eggscuse this time, orangeboi
His excuse is he couldn’t give less of a fuck about you or any of the other poors. Somehow a billionaire supposedly cares about the same things we do
Oh I know. I am just curious how the cult is going to somehow spin this into being the fault of the “communist democrat an-tee-fuh Nazis”, because I’m sure they will try to.
Almost literally, the moment Trump was sworn in as president, the same exact folks who spent the prior 8 months of their lives blaming Biden for the high cost of eggs suddenly had an epiphany that the president does not directly control the price of eggs. And then when the president DID specifically and directly affect the price of groceries as a result of tariffs, those same people suddenly insist that grocery prices are based on complex and rapidly changing global socioeconomic phenomenon that cannot be predicted nor controlled and besides this is still Biden’s economy because it was so broken that Trump hasn’t been able to fix it yet (even though he promised to have it all sorted out in a timeline of days).
They live in a separate reality, void of fact and logic, and I honestly have not figured out a way to reason with that. As wiser folks have said much more eloquently than I could, you cannot reason people out of something they did not reason themselves into.
Its a death cult.
Just, full stop, MAGA is a death cult, same as Jim Jones or Heaven’s Gate.
Big death cult? Popular death cult, takes over the government?
Fascism.
For all the sociological, political, economic complexities and nuance…
It really does basically just boil down to those being pretty much the same thing, at different scales.
Good luck reasoning with or expecting reason from death cult members.
They are the zombie apocalpyse, fucking broken brains, really only fully functional at the limbic level, the rest of the brain is a confused mush of near infinite levels of reality denial, motivated reasoning, and cognitive dissonance.
“Liberal California is making egg prices higher.”
I wish I were kidding.
This has been going on for years. Keeps getting worse like everything else we depend on for a decent stable life but not to worry the White House is building a 200 million dollar ballroom.
the vast majority of US adults didn’t vote against Trump
curious
They’re getting what they voted for.
Unless they didn’t and the tech billionaires got their money’s worth.
Haha not me!
I’m old-money poor, grew up broke.
This is just a reversion to the mean.
All these fools thought they weren’t poor this whole time, blew out the backs of their credit card balances with endless hot loads of usless garbage purchases… tch tch tch, not how you do it, doesn’t end well.
Gettin tired posting the surprised pika face meme. Think I will take a break.
The plan is working
Come to south america. Food is cheap af.
But just the girls. Don’t send us astronauts, engineers, doctors and other stuff like the venezuelans did.
i would recommend just stop eating
Murikkkans: you made your bed now lie in it.
Signed: the Rest of the world
I guarantee you this is happening wherever you live, just in a different flavor.
The billionaires are parasites on the entire planet, not just the US.
