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    It’s not like there’s a state border check for vehicle emissions. You can visit California in a non-California car without an emissions check. Joy’s claim doesn’t make sense even before fact checking.

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    This is a great example of the importance of teaching people critical thinking skills.

    If you stop to analyze what was written in this sensationalized post rather than acting on your emotions, the first question that should come into mind is “who stopped them?”. There are no checkpoints between Oregon and California where cars are turned away from crossing state lines due to emissions. In fact, that would probably violate federal free travel laws which would supercede any stupid law like that.

    Next, consider the source. Is this person trustworthy? Did they provide ample citations to reputable journalistic outlets that verified the factuality of the claims? If not, they may be trying to deceive you with falsehoods or have an ulterior motive for misrepresenting the facts. At best they are repeating claims that they’ve heard from others and anything they report on should be taken with a grain of salt.

    This post doesn’t hold up to the slightest amount of scrutiny, but people get fooled every day by crap like this. My advice is that if you hear something that sounds outrageous or too good to be true, stop and think carefully about it for a few minutes, or maybe just wait for another source to report it. Saves you a lot of stress and protects you from endlessly doomscrolling.

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      The firetrucks were allowed through but Haitian immigrants ate them!

      You expect too much from these people, and an increasing share of them aren’t genuine people at all.

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      “who stopped them?”. There are no checkpoints between Oregon and California

      … actually, there are checkpoints along every major roadway into California that do check incoming vehicles, mostly to find and prevent invasive species from entering the state and affecting the agricultural industry, and more broadly to protect the environmental systems in California. There have, in fact, been legal challenges against these checkpoints for violating travel laws, but the checkpoints have remained. They’ve also been used to seize non-agricultural items like weed, weapons smuggling, etc. so emissions standards checking isn’t completely out of the realm.

      Obviously, she’s lying and she doesn’t know any of this either anyway. But there are checkpoints to enter California.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Border_Protection_Stations

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      A friend of mine posted something on Facebook (reposted from a local list in Arizona) claiming that two people were knocking on doors and beating up people, and one woman was in the hospital as a result. Pictures of the perpetrators and everything.

      Something felt off, so I did a quick search on their names. And I found an article from some city in Texas where the same rumor had been circulating about that area. The article clarified that the two people had committed some crimes several years ago and were caught, tried, and convicted already.

      So someone took one of these, changed the name of the area, and posted it to the local list. Why do people do this? A form of stochastic terrorism maybe?

      Edit - I can’t find the post (I think my friend deleted it), but I did still have a tab open with the article about it.

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        I have noticed this as well. Back during the early facebook years, a “news” outlet would just generate content by posting stories like “Greenville ranked as the city with highest crime rate” every week or so.

        Everybody on my facebook feed would go crazy saying things like “I always knew that town was dangerous, but to hear it outranks New York? TERRIFYING!”

        Only issue is that this outlet would have 50 different URLs for the article, all giving a city in a different state (always an immigrant heavy suburb) and those articles would be appear around facebook and nobody would know the wiser.

        It costs almost nothing for them to rewrite the world and your perspective about it. The granularity they are now capable of should give us pause.

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    The original post has 58k views, the correct information has 2k. That is the level of efficiency that site has in disseminating correct information.

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      a lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes

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      Good Morning X User.

      Before you can continue using the site, we must inform you of these 126 posts you saw that were misinformation or outright lies.

      Please consume each post for 30 seconds and then you may continue.

      Prev/next

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        My point was not that X would be able to do something about this, but that it is not a source of breaking news, and fundamentally not a replacement for journalism…and should not be used as such.

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    It’s an tragic fact that correcting a lie is hugely more costly than making and spreading the lie.

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      But not quite as tragic as me using the wrong article in a sentence this profound.

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    America does not care about truth. Worse, it actively discourages truth.

    Lying is accepted. Making up facts that suit your narrative and shouting down anyone who disagrees gets you rewarded with the highest position of state.

    We, the rest of the world, are just watching you guys in horror.

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    This stupid bitch has since deleted the tweet and gotten back to it like it’s another Tuesday. OSFM had to put out a statement correcting it. I hate people.

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        My bad, you’re right. I tried to check first, but I didn’t have the patience to scroll past her claiming America Is So Back because “Starbucks kicked homeless people out of bathrooms,” so I ended up not seeing the reposted tweet.

        She lies, runs away from OSFM, gets community noted, and still, in the replies:

        Um, this is 100% TRUE and WOKE Oregon seems to be covering for WOKE California. Leftists stick together.

        There are many people whose work and ideas I deeply respect, but even in my weakest moments, I couldn’t possibly idolize them like this useless waste of oxygen does gargling on Trump’s ballsack every day.

        Because I’m a horrible person, I can foresee that there’s zero chance I’ll die before doing something monumentally stupid. My greatest shame is realizing it probably won’t be as effective as what Luigi did.

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    You never want a serious crisis to go to waste. And what I mean by that is an opportunity to do things that you think you could not do before.

    Driving Californians (particularly the wealthy and well-connected Malibu celebrity class) insane with rage and paranoia, then pointing them at the milquetoast liberal stand-ins for Far-Left Radicalism, will do to California what it did to New York, Texas, and Florida.

    Just a matter of time before the right-wing propaganda machine crushes the brains of the enfranchised class. I’m already hearing my mother-in-law blame the stupid Los Angelinos for raising her own home insurance rates. And more than a few coworkers are smugly insisting this is what a DEI fire department gets you.

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    Too late. It’s already become true, and another example of wokeness for your racist uncle to bang on about.

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    AI is going to make misinformation a 100 times worse. There really needs to be laws with bot usage on social media and data privacy laws.

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    This is something AI would be good for

    Have it search for specific misinformation and reply with a canned response with sources using an official account.

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      dont need AI for this. its why we have systems like webs of trust and peer verification. standard crypto + some social communication solves a lot of these problems.

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          first question you’d need to answer is how joe-bob got into the web of trust in the first place. in order for them to abuse their position they needed to be added to your web.

          literally what bluesky is doing with their filters.

          if you want to automate it… run statistical analysis on the user for how many people ban them. you eventually find the people who are heavy but accurate with the ban button and can use them as inputs. and can use them as early gauges for new accounts. combine that with account age and you’ll eventually get a fairly robust and automated platform for banning misinformation accounts.

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      Who is surprised? People are upset. The two are not the same reaction.