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    I wish the Nazis would fuck each other and leave women alone. No really, you do you.

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        Well he’s part of a huge disinformation campaign funded by Palantir so his opinion about anything will be confusing & nonsense. In fact all of this is disinformation because one of Palantir’s objectives is to reduce world population, and trying to turn everyone into homosexuals is one of their strategies.

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    No no… no.

    This… no.

    No no no no no, no.

    This is waaaaay too on the nose.

    You know around 20 years ago it was basically a crass joke/insult to just say that these kind of people are … their entire personality is a performance to avoid confronting latent homosexual tendencies.

    Me? Yeah, I’m bi, I kissed a dude and I liked it.

    Maybe a little more than that eheheheh, ahem.

    But I can also guarantee I’d fucked more women than Asmongold and Nick Fuentes, 100% guarantee. Individually, and also likely combined.

    Maybe/hopefully not more than Tate as the dude is literally the master of a sex rape dungeon you’re not allowed to leave.

    … these fucking people.

    These fucking people.

    They’re infinitely more gay than I am, Jesus fucking Christ.

    Just… they’re cult leaders of an anti-reality cult.

    Gay is Straight, if you think about, bro.

    … I want to tear these people apart, limb from limb.

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    Do they all just want to suck each other off? I mean fine if that’s what you want to do but don’t be hateful to everybody else because you’re into it? Such weirdos

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      If you haven’t noticed there’s a huge agenda in the media (which is run by billionaire elites) to turn everyone into homosexuals in order to cull world population.

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    It’s hard to believe only a few years ago, we had this concept known as “parody horizon”. People used to say super wacky shit and you had to use your brain power to figure out if they were Beyond the Parody Horizon. Are they saying hilariously stupid shit for sarcasm points, or are they saying weird shit that is just telling?

    Unfortunately, the horizon is dead. These people are just… too gone. They can say stupidly telling shit from time to time, but what the hell are we supposed to do about that? Nothing’s gonna work.

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    Andrew Tate: "Having sex with women is for total homosexuals.

    Me? As a true gangsta that I am, I give and take it up the ass.

    I may be known here as Top G but in my cell in Romania I am known as the Bottom G."

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      I always love when people make the connection with ducks for example. Like have you seen a female duck? Yeah they aren’t as colorful, but their pattern is way more interesting and they are absolutely beatiful in their own right.

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        Also, idk, I think that what an ape thinks looks good has little bearing on what avians find attractive. For all we know male ducks think that bright plumage is unattractive.

        Like for real, would parrots looking at us understand what we see in permanent large breasts? Or would they look at our other comically oversized sex characteristic (large, exposed penises without a baculum) as the primary showy mating display. Or would they see us as a species where sexual selection has resulted in both parties having a display to show off? Would they think that from their perspective it’s obvious which looks better?

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    Guess they’ve never seen all of the statues of Athena, Artemis and Aphrodite. You don’t get as many nude female statues because it was usually considered obscene for women to be naked in public.

    But the Greek male statues were fully nude and depicted ripped mortal men because they were made in line with Aristotle’s idea of good art being educational. Those were arguably the marble version of “git gud, scrub”.

    If there were more male “perfect” body statues at the time, which we can’t establish because many have been lost over the millennia, it might actually be evidence that men were considered less attractive and they needed more body shaming to fix it?

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        The penis thing is pretty hotly debated, but savagery comes pretty close to my understanding of the theory you mention. It’s not a hugely different concept from some of the manosphere stuff you find today though.

        Basically the idea was (it’s theorized) that thinking with your dick leads to making hasty and bad decisions, but you want to be like the cool smart intellectual philosopher rhetorician dudes ruling society who are strong enough to control their urges. You want to be the civilized powerful master strategist, not the uncivilized weak-willed destructive glutton. So… because art needs to be about reality and be educational (there’s no place for that creative abstract shit), we’re going to de-emphasize the body part associated with urges that are difficult to control. These are powerful rational dudes afterall.

        The biggest difference with modern manosphere bullshit is maybe the part where they shrunk the pps on the ripped marble dudes to make that point. Instead we get… social media statue and peacock “science” analogies.

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            Phrasing. But yes, some of them - they seemed to prefer making plaster and metal fig leaves thankfully. Michelangelo wasn’t thrilled about being told to change his work either. Some of them were whacked off earlier than the Catholics, and some were whacked off by the Vatican even as late as the 1850s in “The Great Castration”.

            Many of the lost appendages were accidental though, natural disasters and the like did a lot of amputation and decapitation, to the point where there are entire catalogue methods for mismatched heads on statues.

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        If we had? We have sculptors. We have people making sculptures. You don’t have to guess what they would make… but yeah, it’s bulges…

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        I think Nemesis is Roman, but probably a copy of a Greek statue. I might have chosen to forget because the “restoration” work on her head breaks my heart - but I know that’s a common problem. Such a pity because the drapery is gorgeous.

        Looking at this Diana/Artemis, who was much luckier than most statues by having her original head reattached, you can see how different it is. The proportions make much more sense.

        Image text description below image:

        Photo of a marble statue of Artemis (aka Diana), which lives at the Louvre. Artemis is mid-step reaching for an arrow in the quiver on her back. In her other hand she’s pulling on the antlers of a small deer that she has caught. She’s wearing a short and practical belted tunic (chiton) appropriate for hunting, functional sandals, and an equally pragmatic hairstyle with her wavy locks in an up-do. Her arms and legs are neither skinny nor super muscly, they’re very average looking. But, being a goddess, she’s got a tiara. Not an ostentatious tiara, a simple solid tiara. A utility tiara, if you will. And being a female goddess, you can still see her nips pushing on the intricate drapery of her chiton. She’s clearly got some sex appeal carved in, but the statue is of a capable person who is independently getting shit done.

        I love her because she basically looks like the kind of woman a modern conservative commentator would condemn for subverting gender roles. Also with a proportional head.

        Diane de Versailles - Louvre catalogue

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      Right they were “lost over time”. You’ve got a bunch of ripped naked Greek guy statues in your basement don’t you

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        I wish I had both any cool ancient things and any basement to put them in. I think the oldest thing I own is maybe 100 years at best.

        I think I’d be terrified to own anything much older too, conservation is hard.

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          the hardest part of conservation is learning how to do it. like, i play saxophone and the instruments literally die and need expensive if you go too long without playing. how to take care of a sax? make sure your mouth is clean (like, rinse it out with water at least) before you play. ABSOLUTELY do not eat anything or drink anything other than water (not even flavored water bullshit) while playing unless you want to go brush your teeth before picking your sax up again. don’t leave your spit swab in while it’s in the case even though it fits so perfect in there, and play it regularly (like at least once a week but once a day is better) to make sure the cork doesn’t literally die. so sax conservation boils down to playing often and keeping your mouth clean.

          guess how i ruined my first sax dudes. it was not doing this shit above.

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      You don’t get as many nude female statues because it was usually considered obscene for women to be naked in public.

      eh idk i’m pretty sure that’s an opinion that started in england, much later, not in ancient greece

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        It’s possible that it is a more modern idea that we’ve attributed to being much earlier, that does happen a lot, but I’m inclined to think it’s not entirely baseless.

        We know for example that the nude Aphrodite of Knidos by Praxiteles caused enough of a stir to become a tourist destination, and even she had a conveniently positioned hand covering her goods. Kore statues always had clothes on too, unlike their male counterparts.

        I could maybe buy the possibility that almost all of the nude women sculptures were stolen and later destroyed, either intentionally or accidentally, but that doesn’t quite work either. To not find any older nude sculptures in modern times, plus the odd detail that none of the nude ones we do have (copies, admittedly, and I don’t know all the statues either) have anything other than Barbie-smooth instead of even a delicate line suggesting labia… seems odd for an art culture that progressively got more caught up with hyper realism.

        They did get nuder and more realistic with time, but we’ve got nothing from the archaic period without at least a skirt on, usually more.