• NotAnOtter@lemmus.orgEnglish
      1·
      1 day ago

      I’m new to this platform and not finding that in the community or general search. How do I access that?

  • solidheron@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    5·
    1 day ago

    More like reddit has so much content it dwarf’s lemmy, but it was bound to happen, you can always mute the bots

  • Psythik@lemmy.worldEnglish
    94·
    1 day ago

    Good. Lemmy needs more content. I hate that I miss out on so much by being here, but I can’t go back to reddit. Therefore I welcome the bots with open arms.

      • NotAnOtter@lemmus.orgEnglish
        11·
        1 day ago

        But reddit rejects people for utter nonsense reasons. If you just use it enough you’ll eventually stumble into something that irks the wrong admin or gets caught by their word filter. So the “Reddit rejected” set is really just a random sampling of power users. Of that set, the hateful degenerates are driven towards X imo.

      • sem@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
        5·
        1 day ago

        I rejected reddit when they did RIF and Apollo dirty. I would still like the reddit content.

      • Psythik@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        1 day ago

        No, by “I can’t”, I mean that I don’t want to go back to reddit. Dodging a ban is easy, but fuck reddit. I can’t stand all the low IQ MAGA-types and general American stupidity there. At least Lemmy’s conservatives have enough brain cells firing that you can have a proper debate with them…

          • Psythik@lemmy.worldEnglish
            1·
            1 day ago

            No, just the good reddit content, lol
            Like what is shown in OP’s screenshot. Niche content too, 'cause that pretty much doesn’t exist here. We desperately need it.

    • QuinnyCoded@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      1·
      1 day ago

      I’m ok with that if it’s on a separate instance that’s easy to block/hide (which has been happening already). Where I take issue is bots taking over communities where humans post.

    • tetris11@feddit.ukEnglish
      9·
      2 days ago

      I like to frequent HackerNews for some of the discussions there, but… my god, the front page just turns me off. I do a quick glance, see if anything isn’t some not-so-subtly covert advert for an LLM product, and just navigate away.

      There are some alternative front pages (https://elijahpotter.dev/hnsansai) to make it bearable, but even then

        • OctopusNemeses@lemmy.worldEnglish
          3·
          1 day ago

          I’ve run this experiment before. ~90% of accounts sampled on the top 20 /r/all with not prior post history before 2-3 months got converted to cryptocurrency spam bots. Some of the remainder were porn spam. A few deleted accounts. A few seemingly real people. This was during the heights of cryptocurrency mania. Believe me or don’t. I can’t be assed with source dropping internet-pseud wankery.

          Bot deception tactics have certainly changed since the prevalence of LLMs. I haven’t been paying attention to what the patterns have shifted to. Before these times, it was easily spotted because they were relatively simple.

          I believe earlier this year someone on /r/theoryofreddit spotted closed networks of subreddits where bots engage with each other. Those are used to farm accounts on a massive scale.

  • Cris_Citrus (he/him <3)@piefed.zipEnglish
    774·
    3 days ago

    A day ago he reposted a meme about a doctor raping a woman because her credit card was declined and she couldnt pay for care.

    Thats VILE.

    In addition to the slimy pretending that his posts are organic traffic by not just marking his account as a bot, he is also importing the culture of casual sexism from reddit to the threadiverse.

  • m-p{3}@lemmy.caEnglish
    282·
    2 days ago

    Personally I don’t mind it too much, as long as

    • there’s no vote manipulation to artificially boost the post
    • there are genuine interactions in the comments
    • the account posting this is properly labelled as a bot account (if it’s an actual bot)
    • GardenGeek@europe.pubEnglish
      2·
      2 days ago

      Looking at this specific accounts history it seems as if its a regular poster (with a bit controverse ethics about content creation if you will) and as if OP has just labeled the account to be a bot.

  • auzy1@lemmy.worldEnglish
    82·
    3 days ago

    Yep. I see this all over the new feed.

    It’s stupid just reposting 100% from another place. If I wanted that, I’d just go there.

    • [deleted]@piefed.worldEnglish
      10·
      3 days ago

      I do like that posters who seem ro manually post filter the stuff from other sites which in my opinion increases the average quality of posts. Reddit is a tidal wave with a few gems. The fediverse is mostly the gems, like using cheesecloth in a strainer.

  • soratoyuki@piefed.zipEnglish
    322·
    3 days ago

    All of those posts are heavily upvoted and have multiple comments though? Accreditation, etc. are all valid critiques, but I genuinely don’t understand why so many people care about the provenance of posts.

    • SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.socialOPEnglish
      184·
      3 days ago

      I post pictures of bread I bake and I’m on the upper lower middle side of mid for my baking skills.

      If someone picks the best bread on a subreddit with a million members my posts will be buried instantly so what’s the point in adding real content?

      • soratoyuki@piefed.zipEnglish
        123·
        3 days ago

        I think that’s a bad analogy for a few reasons. First, all the examples you’ve posted are specifically meme template-friendly subs, which makes sense since they’re inherently easy to repost. I don’t think think a baking community would have that problem. But even if it did, you could just start a new baking community that bans reposts? Given how unpopular repost bots are, I assume your anti-repost baking community would be more popular than the hypothetical pro-repost baking community that your posts are buried in. Assuming that repost bots are drowning out more organic content, which prima facie doesn’t seem to be the case in either community you screenshotted as examples. Both seem like pretty solid examples of their being no other content.

        Structurally speaking, up and down votes should ideally, roughly sort posts by quality. A post being buried (unpopular) in a community isn’t necessarily a bad thing.

        If fear of not getting enough internet points is what’s keeping someone from posting, that’s more on them.

          • CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
            54·
            2 days ago

            You’re not battling anyone for engagement because you’re not posting anything yourself. All you can offer is hyptheticals with no supporting evidence.

            Why don’t you go hang out in /askscience or /askhistorians with Portnou if you want all organic content. He and his multiple personalities are posting there dozens of times per day and those communities are just popping off with content and activity.

              • HubertManne@piefed.socialEnglish
                41·
                2 days ago

                kinda wierd for someone with a yr history that only posted a few things early on and then a few more 3 months ago who then also is on so unoften he does not recognize your handle to make this statement about your user. had to tag that.

              • CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
                45·
                2 days ago

                Upset that your daily screenshots of the mod log aren’t getting much engagement? Perhaps you’re jealous that your reposts from /r/news aren’t getting as much traction as time2lose’s reposts? What engagement are you generating other than your current crusade against this specific user?

                Edit: its also interesting that not only have you started a crusade against users for posting content that you don’t agree with (even though you don’t hold yourself to the same standard as evidenced by all your own reposts), but you’ve also started a community for you to start a crusade against mods for making decisions that you don’t agree with. There seems to be a pattern here where everything revolves around you and everyone needing to meet your demands.

      • odelik@lemmy.todayEnglish
        2·
        2 days ago

        That’s a very fancy way of saying, “I bake the middest of mid bread.” And I approve

      • NathanRanch@lemmy.zipEnglish
        21·
        2 days ago

        The canary sings despite the cage. You don’t have to sing to anyone except for when you want to

    • TheShamMirrors@lemmy.todayEnglish
      11·
      3 days ago

      I’ll drop everything and come to piefed right now. On god.

      Question though: How or will you differentiate between people who are scheduling mass posts from reddit from people who just saved memes that also happened to be there?

      • Bumrocky@lemmy.worldEnglish
        3·
        3 days ago

        I hate the reddit reposts where the only interaction is on reddit … that defeats the point of lemmy\fediverse?

    • LordMayor@piefed.socialEnglish
      5·
      3 days ago

      If you can detect it, you could auto ban them, no?

      I think a rule against serial reposting would be fine and, probably, popular.

      • SolSerkonos@piefed.socialEnglish
        11·
        3 days ago

        I wouldn’t like a blanket rule like that. I think that dropdown menu in the screenshot is perfect. Especially if paired with a toggle in the community settings that lets the mods ban posts from them entirely.

      • Despair@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        2 days ago

        Isn’t that just a client side filter, would be up to whoever runs the community/instance rules for handling bot accounts, and if they feel the accounts should be banned.

        • Rimu@piefed.socialEnglish
          71·
          2 days ago

          Yes the screenshot is just the user settings. Admins are going to have to manually designate accounts as reposters because I haven’t even tried to make an automated detection. That would be very hard to get right.

          • SourGumGum@lemmy.worldEnglish
            2·
            1 day ago

            How is this any different to a user blocking them directly? What a useless feature.

            Edit: Really? Trying to mark me as a bot or possibly dox my IP by visiting your link because I thought it was a bad idea?

      • Rimu@piefed.socialEnglish
        31·
        2 days ago

        It’s manually-applied and reversible. I can’t reliably code an automatic reposter detection system because they’re all different. It’s going to have to be a human judgement.

        Similar to labelling things as AI-generated or NSFW - being a reposter isn’t necessarily bad. It just means that people who don’t mind whether they see it can do so and those who don’t want to can avoid it, without the conflict that ensues when people with different needs and tastes are forced to share space.

        • ayyy@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          1·
          2 days ago

          And you’re leaving this up to individuals, not your judgement, right? If so, good idea. If not, eww.

          • Rimu@piefed.socialEnglish
            32·
            2 days ago

            Individuals, yeah. Instance admins are going to need to designate reposters if they refuse to self-designate (and Lemmy doesn’t have functionality for them to do that, except as a bot) and then it’s up to individuals to decide whether they filter out reposters or not.

            • ayyy@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
              2·
              2 days ago

              Oh, so you’re leaving the labeling to instance admins, not individuals. That’s problematic, but you do you.

              • Rimu@piefed.socialEnglish
                2·
                1 day ago

                The label doesn’t do anything until individuals opt in to filtering based on it.

                We can’t leave it to the reposters to self-identify because

                1. Lemmy does not have the functionality to do that and

                2. reposters are deceptive and sneaky

      • odelik@lemmy.todayEnglish
        4·
        2 days ago

        Don’t call out that, cus that’s just as hateful as hate! /s

        Or something like that I presume.

        It’s not* even tolerance paradox shit (which only exists if you misunderstand what tolerance is), it’s full blown normalization of biggoted behavior.

        • baddaywithacamera@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          2 days ago

          It is frustrating for sure. I do appreciate the higher signal to noise ratio in the fediverse and also that it is decentralized, I think it makes for a better experience overall.

          Cheers to you. :)