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Some good makeup can make you look fly even if if you like yourself
It’s not so cut and dry as that
Can it make an overweight, depressed, self loathing guy in his late thirties feel fly? Asking for a friend.
It doesn’t have to be makeup, but caring for how you look can help you feel fly, too. A haircut that fits. Face treatments or creams with nice scents feel good. Finding the right products for you can make you feel good. I helped my husband find the right soap and shampoo for his skin and hair type, got him to use moisturizer and better shaving products. His acne that he had for years vanished completely, his skin is nice and smooth now and he feels so much better because all the dry skin was uncomfortable. He also goes to a barber shop now that massages his head and gives him a haircut and beard trimming and he loves having a little spa time.
It won’t magic magically cure your depression or reduce your weight, but it will help you feel better in your body.
Yes. Source: experience
For real though. I did rocky horror picture show a while ago with some old friends who did theatre, and I dressed up as a gender bent version of Columbia in the gold sequin jacket. They contoured my face, gave me cats eyes, and dyed my beard bright red. I felt fly as fuck, I look damn good in fishnets and makeup. I also got to experience feeling hot; that night I learned that my body type has a number of admirers in the gay community, and quite a few people in attendance made sure I knew it. All around one of the best things that has ever happened to my self esteem
Fuck, I want that. RHPS isn’t a thing in Europe, unfortunately. But I am happy for You. Envious but happy.
Go to the gym, it will make a world of difference. Lifting weights is not even difficult (like cardio, I hate cardio and never do it). But the extra muscles will help burn fat and make you want to eat better to get nice gains.
You are not going to be depressed when you start to get a nice body.
You are not going to be depressed when you start to get a nice body.
Lol
LMAO, even.
I dropped from ~300 to 167lbs between april 2014 and March 2015, I had a 6 pack and had more energy than I ever had in my adult life.
Still depressed as fuck.
Being in shape won’t fix your psychological problems.
Depends very much on the source of those problems. Looking better can absolutely help in most cases. Maybe not for you.
it’s like trimming your beard to accentuate your face (yes i know men are physically able to wear makeup), it’s not necessary but i quite like looking in the mirror and making finger guns like johnny bravo
Fair enough, there’s most probably some room for ethical consumption of cosmetics and make up. But by far, the large majority of this industry is driven by the capitalist need for consumption and misogyny
Why would the capitalists want misogyny? They don’t care about women’s self esteem - just their money.
Yeah, but this this kinda hatred drives consumption even more.
A recent example would be how the advertising and tracking/recommendation algorithms at Instagram recognised that when teen girls were deleting their selfies, that is the time to shove cosmetic ads to them.
I mean one could argue that there isn’t any real intent to misogyny from the capitalist ruling class, but I’d be more inclined towards believing that this is done with some intent. Keeping the people divided and whatnot
I was going to go off on a tangent about other industries that shouldn’t exist, but people are having reasonable and productive conversations in the comments, so I guess I won’t. Damn you, level-headed Lemmy users! Damn you all to hell!
A lot of healthy women wear makeup and nice clothes cause they like it, not because they feel ugly
But there’s nothing inherent about that. If society had deemed that wearing a tarp and smelling of fish was fashionable, then they would do that for themselves.
So let’s change society so that “nice things” are less shit for the world.
Theres nothing inherently inherent about that.
I feel like there needs to be a name for this fallacy. The one where you say “society did X, and I don’t like it, so we shouldn’t do X!” As if you can just decree it and make it so, despite the fact that all social constructs are enourmously complicated and deeply ingrained in a culture.
The raindrop effect.
No raindrop thinks itself responsible for the flood. But they are. And if enough of us tiny bits pull in a direction, we can move society. But it won’t seem like it until enough of us do, and then BAM, magically it floods.
I was thinking more of Chestertons Fence - you fuck with something you don’t understand, so it blows up in your face and everyone is worse off because you didn’t understand the long term implications of your actions.
For some women maybe. But there are plenty of women who use makeup to express themselves creatively. They study the art either formally through school or informally online, such as through videos on YouTube, TikTok, Instagram etc.
When explored creatively like this makeup becomes a hobby and potentially a career. It’s a valid form of expression using your face and/or body (hair and nails as well) as the canvas. It can be simple or it can be taken to the level of an art form!
Right, but what’s the ratio? Are there enough people who just use makeup creatively to support the global cosmetics industry?
As it is right now? I doubt it. But the actual percentages are unknown to me. It’s not something that’s particularly easy to track.
But then what do we do about it? The wider issue is with social media and its effects on girls and young women. How do we change it? Young girls especially are vulnerable to social comparisons, starting around middle school age. We can try banning social media for young people but the effectiveness of that strategy is not yet known since we’re still early in the process.
Women like looking prettier (and there’s a side to makeup that’s more self expression and art than vanity too), and more so than the average man does. That much, I think, it’s not really debatable. However, it doesn’t necessarily mean she doesn’t already think she’s pretty or alright or whatever that doesn’t get into the self-hating territory. Maybe I don’t hate my body and I think I’m alright but I wouldn’t mind lowering my body fat percentage, lol.
Personal grooming and appearance matter. As much as I hate dress codes there is something about dressing professionally and looking nice that does give you a little boost in confidence.
Hot take: women aren’t insecure about their bodies because of advertising campaigns. They are insecure about their bodies because of real social consequences they face from the people in their everyday lives.
People treat you better when you look nice. This isn’t morally “right” or “fair”, but it is true. Intuitively or explicitly, women recognize this, and put effort into meeting society’s expectations of them. If all women woke up tomorrow and said “I am completely at peace with how my body looks”, the beauty industry would likely be largely unaffected, because they would quickly be reminded of the second order effects that their negative self image was driving them to achieve in the first place: a good partner; a better job; more, cooler friends.
This.
If I don’t cover up my very natural dark under circles and acne scars, I am treated differently at work by customers.
Wearing light makeup is professional, like wearing a collared shirt is professional. Society has decided this for me.
Some men at work don’t even realise I wear makeup because I choose natural looking application without eye-shadow. They only notice when I don’t wear it (“Are you OK? You look tired/sick”)
Things ugly girls say
Fixed it so you idiots can’t pretend being better wasn’t an option.
Grammatically there’s so much more wrong here
