The “No Kings” protests in every state may have been the biggest day of demonstrations in American history, a data analyst has suggested.

“Based on hundreds of crowd-sourced records of No Kings Day event turnout, and extrapolating for the cities where we don’t have data yet, it looks like roughly 4-6m people protested Trump across the U.S. yesterday,” independent data journalist G Elliott posted to X Sunday.

For reference, that’d mean Saturday’s demonstrations featured 1-2% of the total population of 340 million taking to the streets in more than 2,000 cities to voice their opposition to the increasingly authoritarian, far-right policies the president has pursued since assuming office for the second time.

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    Historically, a regime falls when around 3.5 percent of the general population protest. You can do it, US, I believe in you!

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    The other day I was seeing 13.1 million people, now I’m seeing 4-6 million, these are some big gaps.

    A ton of people either way, but anyone know why the discrepancies are so big?

    I can’t even imagine how people are counted for things like this. The one I went to was in a town of about 100k total people so I’m sure it was on the smaller side of things, but if asked how many people were there I’d guess around 2000, but that would still just be a completely wild guess essentially. Is that how they count attendance for these things, wild guesswork?

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      I dont know in the US, but in my country, in Europe, where we have a tradition of taking to the streets, the police have developed some pretty good methods for counting, based on helicopter photos, video, and physical references.

      I imagine that with drones, lidar, machine learning, and other technologies, you can probably now tally attendance to ridiculous accuracy

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      The 13M type numbers came out early and captured a lot of attention but didn’t have much legitimacy, but they anchored people’s expectations. The smaller numbers are coming out now and have much more legitimacy. They may be smaller but in the big picture this is all still impressive, the movement is big and growing

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    The numbers only count if it’s constantly repeated, otherwise it’s just a sort of a national holiday.

    “Here in the USA, we are so progressive that we actually protest 4 times a year”

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    And it’s achieved nothing at all, so can shitlibs finally stop pretending that protesting does something and start campaigning for violence?

    Because while you were feeling good about yourself for standing on the street, they tried to kill the two democrats they needed to flip the state to them. Only one side was going to achieve something and it only took 1 person not millions.

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      Think of it as a medieval army forming up. An army didn’t generally march straight into battle. They took the time to organise and prepare. It also acted as an opportunity to intimidate your opponents into backing down.

      The protests are the army forming up. Connections are made, wills reinforced and tied to a more focused cause. In many cases, the powers that be recognise the danger this represents and back down. When they don’t, that’s when things escalate.

      Protests like this are a necessary part of reaching the goal. They are a link in the chain. People don’t want violence. It will be accepted, if required, but not joyously.

      Just remember, in a blunt head to head fight, the enemy would be the US military. You would need to either defeat them directly, or break their will. What would it take to cause large scale defections within the US army? Are people willing to pay that price?

      Failing that, the slower, less drastic methods must be employed. It’s a war of psychological attrition, not a fist fight.

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      A better use of protest time would be a general strike. Protesting does little more than slow these assholes down in traffic.

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        These rallies/protests/whatever are exactly how you build momentum for a general strike.

        A general strike is useless without a significant percentage of the population joining. As these protests keep happening the attendees trust that the networks that are drawing them together will step with them into more drastic action, like a general strike. We are building a small amount of trust and cooperation between literally millions of people. It’s not going to happen overnight.

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        I can show up to a protest, but I cannot afford to participate in a general strike. 🤷 I think you would see dramatically different numbers with a general strike.

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          You won’t be able to afford anything once we start feeling the effects of the Great Depression 2. Part of the point of protests is to connect, collaborate, and support each other. Plenty of strikes involve crowdfunded support for those that need it.

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          Yeah when it comes to actually sacrificing anything Americans can’t be fucked.

          They would rather throw away their entire country to the fascists than face any hardship.

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      If you think that protests have never been productive, you need to read up on history.

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        In United States history which protests do you feel had a forever change on The United States. Not just culturally but legally. Please keep in mind that same-sex marriage will be Eliminated during Trump. We are already seeing them roll back segregation Policy. So please, tell me what you think can’t be taken away from us because we protested and then stopped protesting?

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      Let me know your what we can do that’s sustainable in the long term and doesn’t make a martyr out of anyone in the short term

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        Nothing is sustainable long term. Every time we get something good, the bad people try to take it away. It will be a continuous fight against insane humans who love fascism for some fucking reason. I think that worrying about martyring someone it’s not a really good reason to not martyr them

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      Because the people who really mattered were Trump 2024 voters who turned up, and I’ll bet there were very few of those. So basically it’s just Harris voters, and we already know there are too few of those.