Obviously should happen. But i’ll be surprised if it does.
spoiler alert: They wont
the uniparty system wont allow the duopoly to end.
Yeah America has a habit of generating hope … and then crushingly disappointing everyone
I’ll believe it when I see it … otherwise I’m not holding my breath
We’ve also had a habit of razor thin election margins and Republicans in Texas.
It might genuinely kill me if they do it. The sheer surge of endorphins would be comparable to a full plate of fentanyl.
My problem with it would be potential dehydration from continual orgasmic euphoria.
This is unrelated, but I love the creativity in your name. It shows that you have a passion for the arts!
I also appreciate the beauty of OP’s username.
America has a habit of generating hope … and then crushingly disappointing everyone
You’re confusing neoliberals as an only other option to maga…
Anyone with a congressional Dem representative needs to contact their office and tell them they need to support a progressive for leadership.
We can’t afford the bullshit “looking into” that happened under Biden. We need a Speaker and Senate leader willing to put progressive legislation up for votes.
Schumer/Jefferies won’t do that
The problem with America is we vote and then everyone goes back to whatever they were doing.
We need to stay mobilized and protest even the democrats until we are getting what we want.
Winning a congress that might listen is the first step, but politics never ends.
You either participate in politics or politics will participate you and you won’t like what it does to you.
I have a feeling this will go the way of the filibuster, hope I’m wrong
This can’t, its a state innitiatve. there’s no filibuster, only governors who have state legislative trifectas to vote for it.
Its possible itll get thrown out in the supreme court tho…
There’s a line that Interstate compacts are constitutional if “consented” to by Congress. So it’d be like state govs form compact and send a letter to Congress, who acknowledges receipt. I’m sure it’d get challenged but I think the constitution is pretty clear that states select electors who can do whatever they want.
Of course if a state gov changes hands down the line, they can withdraw, but that doesn’t screw anyone over, states will just go back to our current apportionment scheme
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The way this has been done by states already is passing amendments that require them to vote yes when it gets enough votes. This means it’s only a few new states that need to pass a law for this to actually happen. Previous states can’t back out.
“Yes well the wheels of the law turn slowly”
Funny how slowly they move when the dems have control and how quickly they move when the republicans do.
the Republicans were doing the neat trick called ignoring it.
And democrats get a neat little smug and a destroyed world for following it.
LOL. LMAO even. This was me 6 months ago too when people talked about flipping the senate though so WTF do I know?
Get active. Call your reps. Tell them what you want, call them every time legislation comes up. If they wont vote the way you want you vote in the next primary for someone else. You keep demanding better representatives until, and i cant make this any more clear, until you die because they will never be good enough.
Hahahahahah… Oh, that’s rich!
Downvote me if you must, but just go see Minority Leader Jeffries’s comments downplaying the agenda most of us think should be priority… Like finally holding government officials to account for pedophilia, corruption, and treason. Apparently that’s too “revengey” for their billionaire handlers.
Yep. Jeffries’s hasn’t even gotten the official promotion yet and he is already putting in the work to make sure the Democrats are the minority party again in 2028.
Democrats can release the Epstein files right now.
Would it be “legal”? Probably not.
Anyway, leak it now, stop hiding behind the law you weenies.
I agree with Jeffries that impeachment should not be a priority. Vance would pardon, there’s no point to it. Just investigate until Democrat President takes helm in two years.
Trump will likely be dead by then, but his enablers can be brought to justice.
To be fair, this is talking about the number of state governments that have flipped, not Federal.
I did miss that nuance, but not sure it impacts the ability of the parties to do something this radical.
The allusion is to the state-level pact several states have made to always assign their electoral votes to the winner of the popular vote in their state. With Texas and other flipping, that makes enough states to be over 270 votes, meaning if all those new blue state governments join the compact, the EC essentially doesn’t matter anymore.
And it doesn’t need to include Texas
On Tuesday, Democrats took control of state legislatures and governorships in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Arizona, Wisconsin, and Nevada, all states that haven’t agreed to the compact. If all five vote to join, then the total number of electoral votes apportioned based on the national popular vote jumps to 283.
I am enlightened! Appreciate the response.
Any thoughts on how binding such a pact is?
Bad news there I’m afraid, some people think it might even be unconstitutional, but because it’s never triggered it’s never been tested. It’s probably a safe bet that if it ever did trigger the Republicans would set their own children on fire summoning the best lawyers hell can offer.
There is nothing in the Constitution that says how states must choose their electors based on the outcome of the vote, whether it’s by districts or statewide, and it says nothing about how or whether electors are allocated to the runners-up. In fact, it just says it’s up to the states how they conduct their elections. The only requirement (not in the original text of the Constitution for Senators) is that they hold elections.
That might not prevent the Extreme Supremes from making shit up, as they did with presidential immunity, but apart from that kind of fuckery, it should be fine.
That kind of fuckery is exactly the problem we’re facing though, which is why this is tenuous.
Will they? No.
We are actually already ridiculously close to a popular vote being the deciding factor for president:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Popular_Vote_Interstate_Compact
That’s what the article is about.
I think they’re saying it’s not going to happen. The article includes some examples is states that failed to pass that despite Democratic control.
A very helpful comment which encourages people to write their congress persons.
Dont fucking dare tease me with this shit.
No one wants to acknowledge this, but if we all contacted our (non-Republican) representatives every day, this would happen. Public pressure works.
I’ll bring you back down then. It won’t end the EC, it’s a voluntary compact between mostly already blue states agreeing to give their votes to the person that wins the popular vote.
The EC will still exist, and this could, for example, get a Republican elected just as easily. Trump won the popular vote in 2024.
I think it’s probably a good idea overall but it has a lot of problems inherent to its process and enforcement.
The point is that this compact takes effect when the states that have joined represent a controlling number of representatives, i.e. the remaining states that doesn’t participate can’t flip the results.
It takes effect by activating state level legislation binding the state to designate their EC delegates according to the popular vote results.
And yes somebody like Trump could win. But the whole problem is Trump lost the popular vote in 2016 and the below-50% win in 2024 was because media lied about who was responsible for what. If he hadn’t won in 2016 he would’ve fizzled out, but instead he was allowed to use his mafia tactics to pressure owners of media companies into supporting him, and without that he would never have had a chance in any other election afterwards
Was just listening to David Dayun on this.
They’re going to fuck up like they always do and we’ll be back to a Republican majority in no time
They think this election represents support for the Dems, but most people (including reliable Dem voters) still have an unfavorable view of the party. This election was about rejecting Trump, and he won’t be dragging down the Republicans in 2028.
We need to hit the primaries HARD.
The Dem VOTERS did great, AGAIN! We did it in 2020, and kicked MAGA out, and the feckless Biden Admin just let them right back up. Now we’re doing it again in 2026, and this time we’ve made it clear that we expect them to hold MAGA accountable, unlike last time. Nothing less than full commitment to this mission is acceptable.
I thought that would be the only real battle, but now it seems we have to fight off Israel’s attempts to infiltrate our government, as well.
It’s going to be a busy two years.
That was an anomaly.
Same thoughts exactly. I don’t want to see another red tsunami
Will they actually do it though? I’m guessing no
Just like the Republicans do much of anything with their majority.
Most of our gov is ineffectual because it is about maintaining status quo for elites. Everyone else be damned.
Rs did a lot this time around, thats why they lost.
The entire point of bourgeois democracy is to give workers the illusion of freedom so that the capitalists can continue extracting wealth.
I can hear it now “… But… But… The Republicans won’t let us😭”
I actually thought about this the moment I saw all the state wins. Everyone around me completely fixated on Congress and forgot how important state politics are.
I’m glad to see a little validation, although these people still don’t seem to care even after I tell them that! Lol
We cannot guarantee any progressive legislation until the fascists in SCOUTS are either removed or the court is stacked with progressives
No reason not to try. Keep the fascists on the defensive.
What did the SCOUTS ever do to you? Wait, don’t answer that.
Broadly gestures around
It’s SCOTUS (Supreme Court of the US), not the Boy Scouts.
Im just going to say im dyslexic
Dyslexics of the world, untie!
I’m just playing with you, hope you didn’t take it personal.
I didn’t :P
Scout master Tim?
This isn’t a federal law, these are State laws, and the Constitution very clearly gives electoral power to the States. So much that even this extremely partison ratfucking SCOTUS has avoided taking related cases.
The only issue with the Compact, as pointed out in the article, is that the US Constitution also says States cannot enter into an inter-state Compact without Congressional approval. So they’re at odds with each other. However, that would only require a basic approval by the House and Senate, it doesn’t involve the President at all. Still some big hurdles, but not nearly as many as two days ago.
All it takes is for someone to sue (like the Justice Department under Trump) and for the Supreme Court to decide they have standing, and for the Supreme Court to make up some reason why the compact is not allowed.
If you think the actual text of the Constitution matters then you don’t understand how the current Supreme Court has been ruling. 😅
If you think the actual text of the Constitution matters then you don’t understand how the current Supreme Court has been ruling. 😅
Quite the contrary. SCOTUS hasn’t thrown out the rulebook, and they don’t show any sign they intend to. They’ve ignored every State election issue that’s come before them this year. Hell, the only time SCOTUS has meddled with State elections was Bush v Gore.
But SCOTUS doesn’t really matter here… we already know the Compact is not allowed, by itself. The Constitution explicitly says so. Article 1, Section 10, Clause 3… The Compact Clause. It explicitly says they States cannot enter a compacts with another State, without the Consent of Congress.
It is very clear. There is zero room for interpretation. SCOTUS has never tried to worm their way through something so fundamentally explicit in its wording. Almost nothing legal is ever phrased so clearly as this clause. Definitely nothing this SCOTUS has ever come close to hearing.
A quick search shows that in May 2026 the Supreme Court ruled that gerrymandering is a-okay with them, so I’m not sure what you mean when you say that they’ve ignored every state election issue this year.
With a clear majority the Congress can very well give consent.
The concern is that the Supreme Court will overturn the compact when all checkboxes have been ticked because they are political hacks and will conjure some text regardless of actual law.
There’s nothing in the constitution that bans gerrymandering. Actually quite the opposite since it explicitly gives the power to control elections to the state. Unfortunately though as said already, the constitution explicitly bans multi-state pacts without congressional approval.
I’m not a fan of this SCOTUS, but they’ve clearly shown that they prefer a strict interpretation. They’ve been swatting down plenty of Trump’s executive orders too
There’s nothing in the Constitution that gives the President immunity from prosecution, but the Supreme Court ruled that it is there.
As for gerrymandering… there are laws against gerrymandering, but the Supreme Court threw them out, except under conditions that are both vague and impossible to achieve. Unless the state legislature is literally twisting their mustaches and saying, “we are drawing a map to deny you representation” while tying a black person to train tracks the law has been invalidated.
And while you may personally agree with their decision the fact that the laws stood and were fine with decades of Supreme Court scrutiny shows that it is not a simple matter of states running their own elections.
As for the “no states having compact”, I expect the Supreme Court to come up with some justification even if Congress allows it.
And while you may personally agree with their decision
Let’s be clear I don’t. I just think the court isn’t as unpredictable as people assume. They will continue to make terrible terrible decisions, but the logic behind them is clear. I seriously doubt they will do the more extreme things like change election results that people seem to believe
so I’m not sure what you mean when you say that they’ve ignored every state election issue this year.
That was not really a State election issue, it was the Constitution and the federal Voting Rights Act conflicting in a way SCOTUS ignored for 30 years, just making an assumption for simplicity (the exact thing SCOTUS exists to determine and shouldn’t be ignoring). Since States handle the redistricting maps, a State was involved, but the actual issues at hand were federal, so SCOTUS has jurisdiction.
There is very little in common between determining conflicts with race-based limits and requirements for drawing maps, and reinterpreting part of Article 1 of the Constitution. One of the easiest to read parts
Article I, Section 10, Clause 3:
No State shall, without the Consent of Congress, lay any Duty of Tonnage, keep Troops, or Ships of War in time of Peace, enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State, or with a foreign Power, or engage in War, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit of delay.That is pretty clear cut. And unlike the above situation where we are talking about a newer federal law conflicting the Constitution, there is no conflict here. If Congress consents, then the Compact is approved.
Again, the Democrats have a majority of both houses and can give consent at any time. I’m not sure why you seem to think that this is a show stopper?
I’m not sure why you seem to think that this is a show stopper?
I never said it was.
The US Congress isn’t where the difficulty lies at the moment. The Compact still only has 222 Electoral Votes, so more States have to pass the Compact before it even gets to that point, and by the time that happens, a majority in both side of Congress may no longer exist.
Weird typo, lol
Fighting Republican lunatics is step one.
Step two is fighting all the centrist MAGA Lite Democrats.
So 95% of the party? Yeah, none of the progressive shit is gonna happen. But don’t worry, the progressives “shift the conversation.” Maybe some day the oligarchs will allow their Dems to enact the will of the people.
Some day? The fight is now, comrade.
Totally agree, I was being sarcastic. I should know by know that no matter how obvious I think the sarcasm is, I should still use the /s.
Uh huh and I betttt they’ll do it
It’d be nice if Dems had enough fight in 'em to do something like this but they’ve consistently shown the opposite.
They would rather play nice with republicans
Especially with the leadership we’ve currently got.
And they ain’t getting out until at least 2029, so things aren’t going to be any different.
