consider that a chicken died for this and the least you can do is actually enjoy it
This shit is ridiculous. Being a person should not require such nonsense.
This is from people with the mindset of “food is fuel” and they’re trying to take the pleasure out of eating.
I mean I get it. You’re trying to eat healthy but you don’t have to punish yourself over it. I can make a fantastic salad with air fryer well spiced chicken.
No?
They’re not trying to take the pleasure out of eating, they’re trying to get as massive as they possibly can. Which, yes, does take the pleasure out of eating. However, their mindset is almost certainly “I have eaten this exact meal 647 times in the past year, I must get bigger, I must get bigger, I must get bigger.”
there’s no reason you have to skip making the food taste good just because you’re eating a lot, if you’re eating more then you’re gonna need more salt, and other spices aren’t something you can have too much of unless you’re snorting nutmeg…
Yes and no. You’re correct about people skipping seasoning while bulking up. Which is what this looks like based on the protein bottle in the background.
I’ve also spoken to someone in person and online that skip seasoning while just trying to eat healthier.
Huh, is there any scientific support for seasoning being bad for you? Like, things like too much salt or MSG — ok there’s no arguing against that. But seasoning period?
A fellow member of boiled, unsalted chicken club!
Don’t forget the tabasco.
lil soy saus? no?
You know there’s no calories in normal seasoning?
Tasty food gives dopamine. Dopamine gives you motivation to do stuff.
You’re just unnecessarily doing it on hard mode without at least some pepper
Edit: also halve the rice and triple the broccoli
It’s like 5 calories of broccoli with all those nutrients, but like 350 of basically empty carbs.
Carbs are required for muscle building.
I go with beans. You get carbs and nutrients.
And protein
Yeah, when I’m cutting I’ll do a fuck load of seitan, cut out the rice and have 300g of broccoli, with a flavoured with a ton of spices. Genuinely tasty and something I enjoy, cutting doesn’t need to be punishment.
More like 40 but same difference
Tasty food just makes you want to eat more.
Not if you fill up with tasty fibre rich food
it genuinely pisses me the fuck off that producers aren’t just putting fibre into everything they can, just use the leftover chaff from making white flour!
Fibre is the closest thing i know to a magic cure-all supplement, eat more fibre and basically all the little discomforts related to digestion just fucking disappear and you feel generally better and healthier.
But like it’s really annoying to actually get extra fibre without fairly significant changes to your diet or spending extra on fibre-enriched pasta that’s engineered to be basically identical to normal pasta, and yet there are plenty of products that seem like adding fibre would make no change at all to the texture, like just put some grain chaff powder in muffins!!!
halve the rice and triple the broccoli
Everyone has different nutritional needs. If you’re doing chicken broccoli rice, it’s probably because it’s much easier to measure out an exact amount of macronutrients to fit your needs and fill up the rest on broccoli to make it as satiating as needed.
What does that have to do with seasoning?
I guess it wasn’t clear what I was responding to. I edited my comment with the quote.
This picture oozes such self-loathing it’s concerning.
When you’re a fatty, loathing is at an all time high. I was never fat, but I’ve lost 20 lbs since February eating pretty similar to this
If you were never fat, why are you trying to lose 20+ pounds?
I was 6 ft and 200 lbs. Not obese by any stretch. Trying to lose the dad bod and get back to where I was before I retired from field work.
My goal is to actually be leaner than that, now that I actually have time to pay attention to fitness and diet.
I’ll tell you that for most people it’s less about food intake and more about physical exertion.
I’m not saying eat cake for every meal but as long as you’re burning more calories than you’re taking in that’s all that matters unless you have underlying health conditions. Keep being you but just exert yourself more. Work until failure.
I say this with love as a person who has struggled with dysmorphia and has taken several steps to overcome it.
This is absolutely terrible advice. It takes an insane amount of physical activity to burn the calories of a meal, and being in a deficit will make you feel hungry regardless.
The majority of people need to worry about putting down their fork, not doing more physical activities
Like 10% of our calories that we burn come from exercise - the rest is just keeping the lights on, so if you want to be in a deficit, you need to eat less.
Abs are made in the kitchen.
That’s… exactly what I said? You need to burn more calories than you consume. But that means putting in the work to do so.
I think the person you’re replying to is arguing that whilst exercise can have myriad health benefits, that when it comes to weight loss, it’s more practical to focus on one’s diet. I also hold that view, and it seems to be the consensus amongst weight loss specialists. You can’t outrun a bad diet when the difficulty of burning calories is so much higher than the ease of consuming calories. If someone who wanted to lose weight was going to focus on either changing their diet, or increasing their activity level, then diet is the sensible choice.
Of course, framing it like that is a bit of a false dichotomy, because the health benefits associated with exercise are so significant that I’ve seen some research that suggests it may be healthier to be fat and fit than to be at a healthy weight and unfit/sedentary. Personally, I struggled with disordered eating for many years, but I was finally able to lose weight in a healthy way after I started powerlifting. The impact was mostly one of morale: whilst the increased muscle mass and activity level increased the number of maintenance calories I needed, it wasn’t too huge of an impact when compared to how much I was eating before. What actually changed was how I felt about my body, and how I thought about food, as well as my overall energy levels.
Actively exercising only burns slightly more calories than just sitting around existing does.
CICO works to an extent, but human bodies are shockingly efficient machines. What you eat is important, why and how you eat are important. Losing weight and keeping it off can be hard.
Adding exercise is great for a lot of reasons. If you aren’t getting regular exercise you really should. But one of those reasons is certainly not weight loss. You might even gain weight.
U R whatcha 8
I ate a Lego when I was a kid
When I was in Chicago went to my Mexican friend’s house for home cooked Mexican! Yeah. Looked like that.
Wife: “Ed’s guts can’t take spicy.”
Shoot me.
Ed needs to suck it up for the sake of all that is Mexican.
Also username
Seriously. And you will very quickly get used to it. Like you wouldn’t believe what happened to me when I started making red lentil dal on the regular, but after a while, my bowel movements went back to regular and no more “ring of fire.”
LOL, nah. (I’m actually giggling.) Ed was 50 at the time, had IBS or something.
And yes, practice makes perfect! I eat peppers that would make a billy goat puke, no problem.
Wife and I were at the Mexican joint Friday night and I was scarfing the homemade hot salsa, the kind you have to ask for. “You are drinking that!” Another time she accidentally stuck her chip in and got it in her mouth. Coughing and crying so hard I was worried for her heart condition. Good times.
The dual-use of the English “spice” (ground minerals used to improve flavor) and “spice” (substances that cause food to taste hot and intense) leads to many unfortunate losses of potential flavor.
Gymbro bodysculpt enthusiasts are wild. They won’t have tasty meals because they don’t want food to be associated with pleasure, only fuel.
Maybe it works, maybe its a clever brain hack, but I suspect its from the same pseuds that brought us nofap
It’s so insane to me because i’ve trained myself to be quite in tune with my body’s needs.
Turns out animals are evolved to seek out the food they need to function and thus we have the ability to actually enjoy healthy food and even get cravings for things with the specific nutrients we need at that point in time.
Thinking that food shouldn’t be pleasurable is like thinking that a well-functioning diesel engine should be making horrid grinding noises and intermittently release smoke from the gaskets…If you just stop eating so much sugar and as much as possible try to cook things from scratch, or at least eat things where you know precisely what ingredients are in it and how it would have been prepared, you should be able to regain the proper feedback from your gut and have a very healthy relationship to food.
I’d also recommend as often as possible trying to wait to eat until you’re really hungry so you can calibrate your sense of hunger (but like, be smart about it, make sure to eat something if you’re gonna do stuff that needs calories and stable blood sugar levels), and try to taste everything once so your body can associate that thing with the nutrients in it.
Also also try to sneak in vegetables into every meal in some way, even if it’s just adding 2 peas or whatever. That’ll psychologically and physically normalize it, so you start wanting it more. Your gut flora is a pretty significant part of what decides your cravings and if you consistently eat something the gut flora will change to things that like digesting those things and thus make you crave them more.Theres a gym bro at my work who eats the same meals everyday. Its something like plain oatmeal, protein shake, boiled chicken, greek yogurt. Every day, no seasoning, all plain and boring. He was complaining to me that he has to almost force himself to eat sometimes and im just thinking like “yeah no shit, you eat wall paste every meal”.
I mean i meal prep my lunches, been over 10 years, updated it once recently. Rice, refried black beans, corn, sweet onion, green pepper. Everyday for lunch. I think it’s tasty and being able to eat the same thing everyday for years is what makes me a great partner lol
the difference there is that you think it tastes good, if it just keeps tasting good every time you eat it then yeah why stop?
See, that makes sense to me. Its not like your eating that for every meal so you still get variety. And you don’t have to think about lunch when getting ready for work/school or whatnot.
Meh. Everything in moderation. Including self-imposed suffering. Sleep late. Eat tasty food. Have days where you just exist. Fuel is for cars.
vroom vroom
It does make those cheat days 100x more special though.
but like, every day can be cheat day if you just make healthy food that tastes good…
and not only is that obviously more enjoyable, but it means there’s 0 temptation to slip back into bad habits because the good habits are self-reinforcing, half the reason i enjoy exercise is because i know it means i can eat more delicious food.
Sounds like self-inflicted stockholm syndrome, tbh.
Are you taking this picture from your bunker?
This is the most depressing lighting I’ve ever seen.
Seriously, it looks like your taking this picture from The Backrooms.
my brother in Christ, the blitz is over, the bombs have stopped - you no longer have to eat like this
Hail Satan.
Don’t deserve flavour, don’t deserve light.
On a cut like this you dont want to actually see your food.
Dude, that plate is upside down! The vegetables! So much carbs!
Cutting what? Money? Flavor? Health? Or happiness?
Yeah it’s insane honestly. My own meals are probably like 70% vegetable or something. A lot of people already eat very few vegetables in my opinion, but OP really goes beyond that in this case. Bland, tasteless, and not even healthy
I can’t get over the broccoli portion!! I eat 20 times that!
Once during the early pandemic, I inadvertently received 12 pounds of frozen broccoli from a grocery delivery (~5,5 kilos). I have never been too full for a piece of broccoli, and didn’t have the space in my freezer for all of it, so I decided to make a huge amount and see how much I could actually eat.
I made 6 pounds (roasted with spices and a little olive oil) and ate it all without issue. I honestly could have eaten more, but I was a little worried about causing myself digestive issues. I didn’t have any, even though doing the math, I was over 4% broccoli afterwards.
I’m cutting as well, and this plate is scarily similar to where I’ve landed for my meal prep. Pretty much chicken and rice, but I at least do a rub or marinade.
I mean, boiled breast? Eeewww! There are so many other better ways of making it!
I never understood why all the gym people I see in work seem to eat food with the flavour removed, like some paprika or pepper might ruin everything.
From personal experience its because we like food way to much. Its harder to eat less when the food tastes good. I found it was much easier when I treated food like an activity I had to force myself to do. I’d just cook some meat and boil some mixed veggies and then force it down. I was eating like 200-500g of pasta and almost a kg of food for dinner I felt so fucking sick after every meal.
At that point even if I seasoned the chicken I was so sick of it that I would still not enjoy it.
i’m very confused as to what point you’re making here, first you seem to say you want to eat less and then you seem to say you wanted to eat way way more than a normal portion?
Because i was training a lot at the time i had to eat a lot more to not lose weight. But also when I’m cutting and want to lose weight the same applies. I just dont want to see eating as an enjoyable activity or its all that will be on my mind.
When I’m not training for something i dont mind eating normal portions of well prepared meals but I still dont put that much effort in when cooking for myself
From personal experience its because we like food way to much. Its harder to eat less when the food tastes good. I found it was much easier when I treated food like an activity I had to force myself to do.
And this is why a lot of fit people have terrible eating disorders. Don’t do this.
I’d rather have an eating disorder when I’m choosing to eat clean healthy food in the exact amount i want than eating to much unhealthy food and being unable to control my weight.
However i dont class that as an eating disorder. Its fine to make the choice to put minimal effort into food. Especially when it becomes such an unenjoyable part of the day. And you have to eat big to get big 💪
I’d rather have an eating disorder when I’m choosing to eat clean healthy food in the exact amount i want than eating too much unhealthy food and being unable to control my weight.
There is a big gap between eating like shit and putting some pepper on your chicken. If you literally can’t control yourself around food that is a problem and creating unhealthy eating habits to avoid that problem isn’t the solution… Unless you plan on forcing yourself to eat flavourless food for the rest of your life.
However i dont class that as an eating disorder.
It is, and it only gets worse the longer you do it; please find a healthier solution before a bad habit becomes a full blown disorder.
Its fine to make the choice to put minimal effort into food. Especially when it becomes such an unenjoyable part of the day. And you have to eat big to get big 💪
Again putting seasoning on your food isn’t a complicated process, and forcing yourself to eat flavourless food every single day is definitely unhealthy. If you really struggle with self control around food then speak with someone about that problem instead; imagine eating tasty, healthy food in moderation.
I cook well if I’m wanting to cook a nice meal, however thats not what’s happening here I’m just trying to hit my macros for the day. A bit of salt or pepper isnt going to do shit to improve the meal. Its not even flavourless, it tastes like chicken and veggies. If I dont care about the meal why should i waste any extra time preparing the meal?
When I’m trying to maintain weight then I can enjoy food and eat normally. But cutting/bulking you got to be strict otherwise youre just dragging things out longer than they need to be. When you have fat person eating habits your entire life requires an eating disorder to counteract it.
speak with someone about that
Psy op advice. There is absolutely nothing a shrink could say that would stop me from demolishing an XL pizza in one sitting.
I have eaten like this before. Food is fuel and construction material. I need the nutrition to operate my body. Nothing more. The less I think about what it tastes like the more I can think about it as numbers on a spreadsheet.
That being said if I were OP I’d invest in a slow cooker and yes, some paprika. Maybe some dehydrated garlic, cumin, and cayenne as well. This exact dish would be much more appealing if the chicken were shredded and it was in a bowl on top of the rice and broccoli.
Edit: also that’s nowhere near enough broccoli
Mental illness is a struggle we all must face at some point my brother
Food is fuel and construction material.
I live in the netherlands rn and basically at some point in history there was a guy called Calvin who convinced almost everybody to see food this way. To this day traditional dutch food is the blandest, saddest assortment of dishes imaginable. Thank god for immigrants bringing in some flavour.
Just smear some herring on it
Most prisons serve better meals than this
I bet most have gyms as well.
I will come to your residence and cook for you. I can make something tasty and healthy. Please don’t do this to yourself, I’m having a hard time not driving off a cliff due to witnessing this. I would be upset, but I’m too sad and disturbed. At least, the very least, black pepper. I’m begging you.
Is this a general offer? Because that offer sounds kind of incredible.
I mean, with the economy the way it is, there’s some stipulations, but technically yes lol
How much do you charge for just general friendship?
1 piece of gum every time we meet
Not something I expected to see six days later.
But gum seems achievable. I’m a lonely man. When can I expect you?
That part is free, generally
Great! I look forward to our friendship.
Same!
Saaaaame. I will feed you good healthy food and it won’t even be sxpensive. I’ll show you how to make it. Fuck, i’ll show you how to put a couple pots and a grow light in your kitchen so you always have some fucking electrolyte heavy veggies to snack on.
Love it! I have some seeds, but I have yet to grow them. Some heirloom white habaneros and blackberries, etc.
