Because vulnerability management has nothing to do with national security, right?
Updated to add at 1700 UTC, April 16
In an 11th-hour reprieve, the US government last night agreed to continue funding the CVE program.
Not sure how much more whiplash I can take…
They want us to all tune out. This is all by design so we don’t know what’s real or not anymore, then they can get away with even more and nobody will care.
This is what they’ve been doing for years and years, this is just more of the same.
I’m not sure about “they” the US government, but it’s absolutely a Russian/ Authoritarian state playbook.
Oh absolutely 100% this has had foreign involvement, the KGB handbook (literally) describes how to plant chaotic agents into a democratic nation’s population to boost both sides of every social debate or argument. The digital age made this the easiest tactic in the world and every nation that’s been “annexed” by Russia experienced this sowing of absolute weaponized bullshit and hate.
edit: several tankies follow me around downvoting my every comment and throwing tankie memes at me because they seeth when someone says that Russia did a bad thing. It’s quite charming, they can’t do much else because they’re blocked.
1000%
I think a lot of it is too get and propogate misinformation because some people won’t hear about the 180s and still talk about as if they happened
someone told them what the acronym really meant, musta thought it was an EV credit or something
CVE program – the centralized Common Vulnerabilities and Exposures database of product security flaws
Just in case
Edit: I’m glad I wasn’t the only one that didn’t know. When the headline reads like everyone should know I felt a little dumb for a second.
Thank you. I’ve never heard this acronym before, myself.
thank you i was spaghetti walling and none of my backronyms were fitting
Cannelloni-Vermicelli Exploration program? You know, to find out what happens if you mix both on the same plate? Will the Italians assassinate you before you can take the first bite? Will the pasta annihilate as soon as they touch? Will it be delicious? Who knows, and now we will never know.
Fascinating series of words I’ve never heard before
Spaghetti walling - I think this is another way of saying “throwing things at the wall and seeing what sticks”, my guess from the old wives tale that you can test the doneness of spaghetti by seeing if it sticks when thrown at a wall.
Backronym - an acronym that was made by first deciding what the finished acronym should be, then working backwards to decide what it should stand for. Usually used by NASA nerds to make cool sounding projects or by politicians to make evil shit sound friendly and benign.
Hey, my wife isn’t that old!
Very cool
Very legal.
One of my favorite authors is PG Wodehouse and if I ever inadvertently phrase something like him I consider it a good day. He has 9 gazillion novels, 2 plots, and all of them are worth reading because of the way he can turn a phrase.
Yep, one of those things the IT department takes care of and most other people just need to know to keep their devices updated.
Are you guys free yet?
One can only conclude that either this is the latest step in a deliberate effort to sabotage the functioning of the US (and by extension much of the west), or just another monumentally stupid idea brought to life by their limitless incompetence.
They’re Russian puppets, both things are true.
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Starlink leak?!
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us capitalism has nowhere else to expand. its eating itself now.
I’ve been having this feeling for a while now, and not just with the US
yup, europe seems to be on that path too. i don’t think they passed the point of no return, though.
this is the latest step in a deliberate effort to sabotage the functioning of the US
You got that right.
I’m half-sure Trump put price tags on everything in the WH and every time you see a stupid thing in US foreign policy (local is guided by P25), you may hear Donald’s OF donation bell ring.
mitre also has some prime real estate adjacent to mclean metro at tysons east. probably enough for a golf course/country club if you razed everything and took the adjacent park lands.
My money is on the second one, but who knows…
I have maintained for a long time that it’s pure incompetence. If they had some sort of goal they would all be in on it together but it doesn’t seem like at any time anyone in 47s cabinet actually knows what he’s doing.
We as a society need to start defining our damn acronyms. Stop assuming everyone knows what every acronym is, because they do not.
Lucky for you the linked article explains the acronym!
Wait, you’re not one of those people who only reads headlines, are you?
okay, but pretty much anyone in software knows what CVE means, and anyone outside of software doesn’t need to know what CVE means… it’s almost as common in the professional context as CPU
CPU = Chief Party Unicorn
Yup. If you touch anything related to security, you know what a CVE is.
ISWYMBIHTD
“I see what you mean but I have to disagree”?
TYVM
NP, TTYL
IWHBYD
“I would have, but you died”? :D
I would have been your daddy…
It’s an old Halo CE reference that gets shortened to that acronym a lot.
Yeah, like several other people on the internet I’m not American, so I have no idea what this is about.
I’m not American, but CVE’s absolutely form the cornerstone of IT security, and are the trusted keystone of industry security globally.
Ikr?
fr fr
GCVE is more confusing if anything
It’s not Uncle Sam, or the USA shutting this down. It’s the Republican Administration. They’ve been empowered by the Republican led Congress to shut down anything it doesn’t like, understand, or benefit from.
REPUBLICANS. Not some nebulous “uncle sam”. Republicans are turning off funding. They deserve 100% of the blame because they are 100% the cause.
Repugnicunts own the white house & house because Democraps in power didn’t do their jobs the last four years. Russian influence in elections? Obvious, yet not abated by NSA. Misinformation by Fox & Facebook, X? Also obvious. Also not abated (let’s go after TikTok!).
Blatant treason? No problem, we’ll let him take presidency after we DON’T CHECK THE VOTING IRREGULARITIES in VOTES COLLECTED BY THE LARGEST CONTRIBUTER TO TRUMP’S CAMPAIGN.
DNC is a shit-heap.
AOC & Sanders are lovely exceptions.
So far Crockett seems like a good 3rd addition to that list of Ocasio-Cortez and Sanders.
Democrats could have blocked this.
This fact is worth aknowledging as we see more and more of these horrible laws pass.
They certainly are complicit and not putting up nearly enough resistance. Republicans are still the cause, and democrats are refusing to do anything effectual to stop it. I’d love to eject them all, but my point is that this isn’t “uncle sam”, it’s republicans. And it wouldn’t have happened if the Republicans hadn’t started it.
Everyone with eyes can see the Republicans are completely corrupt and primarily responsible.
Standing by and watching fascism happen while you occupy the influential positions of power that can do something about it is just as bad, because that is only helping the Republicans by blocking resistance.
Democrats need to stand the fuck up or quit so someone with fucking balls can take their job
Yeah, I 100% agree.
Maybe the time is right for a 3rd party to rise?
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This is not a law.
Changing agreed upon congressional spending requires a law.
By not forcing an arrest or even fighting the executive order congress is legitimizing and approving the order.
This is/was letting a contract expire. It’s not something that was brought up to the level of congress. Up until the last few years of supreme court decisions agencies were founded with broad powers in their domains, including discontinuing sub-programs.
That’s how it’ supposed to work. None of this has been brought to a vote, which would give Democrats the opportunity to oppose it. For “some reason” congressional Republicans are continuing their prior strategy while being a majority and having the leadership of just, not doing things.
How could Democrats have blocked this? Art thou speaking out thine ass?
Congress controls congressional spending.
The Democrats should say this is tyrannical and tell the truth to the people that we are at war and we need to remove the Russian assets from power.
I know you will keep making excuses for them to keep their power while doing nothing to help tho.
They’re fighting harder for non-citizens than citizens at this point it seems. Not entirely sure why.
It’s because the entire administration is a vulnerability
My European friends here: do whatever you can to make EUVD a viable alternative. It’s a vulnerability database led by the European Union Agency for Cybersecurity enisa. Since their website is relatively new, you can help by providing feedback though this survey. Yes, the CVE funding has been continued for another year. But a sustainable approach to vulnerability management cannot be dependent on a single government-owned / funded entity any longer! I wish the board members all the best in transferring CVE to a new umbrella organization, but now is a great time to also consider global alternatives.
The EU needs to start planning now (well, really, needed to start planning in 2016) to replace every critical system that relies in any way on the US government.
If you think of money invested vs. return on government programs like this, the benefit is incredible. That it’s being discontinued is obvious proof that the US is run by the agents of its own destruction and cannot be relied upon in any way: not as a supplier of military equipment, or information technology, or economic codependency.
They’re doing so much of this shit quietly, but when you start to put each piece together it should be frightening to anyone that doesn’t believe Russia is our BFF.
In late Feb, just after the whole Zelenskyy White House visit, Hegseth issued an order to Cyber Command to halt all planning against Russia including cybersecurity offensive strategies.
He gave the order to Commander Timothy Haugh, who is also head of the National Security Agency. Haugh told the outgoing director of operations, and cyber command begun putting together an official document of why this is a very bad idea.
I missed this completely until yesterday, but it turns out that Haugh and his NSA deputy were both suddenly ousted from their positions less than 2 weeks ago.
No reason was given they were just told “your services are no longer required.” Apparently Laura Loomer requested Trump have them removed and made some vague accusations against them bc they had been installed under Biden.
I admit I hadn’t heard of CVE program before today. Since we are BFFs now and Russia is “totally not a threat” to the U.S., I guess it’s supposed to be ok because friends share everything. But wouldn’t this also make us incredibly more vulnerable to China and any other country?
wouldn’t this also make us incredibly more vulnerable to China and any other country?
Yes, which is why Putin told Trump to do it.
I’m just wondering how Trump squares an explanation for this with the fact that we’re in a technology war with China. Why would we make ourselves more vulnerable to them?
I guess to clarify, it seems easier for Trump to make the argument to his base that everything he does to make us more vulnerable to Russia shouldn’t really be a big deal bc he has so much respect and trust for Putin.
Most people (myself included) don’t really know about this program, but if cutting funding makes us more vulnerable to China and other bad actors, it seems like a point more Americans should be made aware of.
I think it’s because he’s a bigoted moron as well and believes that anything the government spends money on that doesn’t either directly enrich the oligarchs or suppress non-white cis males is bad.
Right before Windows 10 loses security updates too, what a coincidence. Wonder what the Russians are working on…
They dont want national security.
They want to steal your property and destroy the country so they can reform it in their image.
Rather they want new vulnerabilities to go right to the market and remain unknown for longer, because that makes the surveillance and other criminal activity by the government easier.
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On the bright side, at least our upcoming American cyberpunk dystopia is now more likely to feature a greater prevelance of lone wolf, broke, two bit hackers as a semi-viable lifestyle/‘career path’…
It shouldn’t surpris too much given Mike Pondsmith’s general record of clairvoyance that NetWatch is a European Corp.
And, no, “Vos videmus” totally isn’t a creepy motto. Based out of London, one could almost think that it’s the London CCTV system turned sentient AI.
All that has to happen for a ‘Blackwall’ analagous scenario is enough undersea cables get cut/sabotaged.
Then you’re looking at a much more localized internet, where actually having a reliable or high bandwidth connection to a very far away place requires you to either have an insane jerry rigged solution, or a lot of money to pay for an increasing valuable, still existing intercontinental line.
Of course, we very much could also end up with a more intentionally constructed type of widespread firewalling as well… they already exist.
China’s great firewall, tons of other countries that have internet and/or social media killswitches…
… And we are already seeing massive bandwidth from corpo AI scrapers trying to harvest data to train their AIs leading to people making new ways to detect, block, and or trap them in infinite loops, to save their own servers from going down.
You say cyberpunk dystopia… I say 1776.
… As soon as you find documents from the founding fathers addressing best practices and policies regarding cybersecurity, let me know.
I was, like, w-what CVE program. I don’t know of any “CVE” programs that could be shut down, so I don’t know what that abbreviation refers to.
Unless…
…oh no. Fuck. The actual CVE program? And they’re just gonna- Shit.
What.
How.
I don’t know how many times I’ve said “America is fucked” when reading the news lately, and I should stop doing that, because that fact has now been so well established that there’s no need to elaborate.
Ruzza just creamed their pants
North Korea too. Big win for them
…Continuously! (since Trump got in office)
Part of the plan
Part of the deal
Art of the deal!
Fart of a deal!
