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      Not even. Older people got the mercury-stabilized vaccines he’s ranting about, they should be more autistic according to him.

      He’s just fucking stupid.

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    All the people who made the boomer neurodivergents disappear either have dementia or are long gone. Easy scapegoat.

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    Plenty of older people have ASD. I know a couple personally. They have childhood stories of being beaten, yelled at, difficulty with teachers and peers. They claim to be fine today, but telling horror stories of your trauma as a kid really says otherwise. If ASD was bad enough to be “retarded”, they were kept from society and/or put in State Homes. RFK is ADHD, and the only thing that kept him out of jails due to the untreated effects when he was younger is hs family name and wealth.

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      the only thing that kept him out of jails due to the untreated effects when he was younger is hs family name and wealth.

      That and having a penis. Rosemary wasn’t so lucky.

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    “No one in my generation had autism”

    Sure thing. Uncle Barry, who collects every issue of Mechanics Monthly, and has spent over $10,000 on his model train set that is a perfect scale recreation of King’s Cross Station, is completely neurotypical.

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      This response vexes me because while Uncle Barry here is certainly an example, what these people are forgetting (and what this thing about Uncle Barry glosses over) is that until the Americans with Disabilities Act, and the fights from the 70s onward, if a family in the US had a child with an IQ of under 70, they were often shipped off to an institution.

      Deinstitutionialization didn’t really begin to gain steam until relatively recently in our collective history- here in Tennessee we still had one of these facilities open until the nineties. These people didn’t believe there were people with severe mental disabilities, because our society hid them away!

      Look up Clover Bottom. But don’t, because it’s horrifying. I’ve met people who lived there their entire lives. What was done to them was disgusting.

      It is awful what was done to them. But it’s awful that people with a greater severity of condition, a greater need for care, are often glossed over in these comment sections. It feels like they’re made invisible in these conversations just like they were in those institutions! And I’m terrified that assholes like RFK Jr will disappear them for real!

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          Thatcher did the same over here. Called it ‘Care in the Community’ which translates as ‘Vastly increasing the at risk and vulnerable unhoused population’.

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      I have a staunchly leftist but older co-worker who thinks no one she knew growing up had autism.

      “I still think something is causing it” despite being pro-vaxx.

      The propaganda is extremely effective unfortunately

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        Considering how provaxx they where back then, it’s insane seeing people who grew up with polio repeating antivax shit.

        Like back in the day. No one got cancer…cause they didn’t know wtf it was, doesn’t mean the shit wasn’t around. Science didn’t stop in 1904.

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          Just on cancer as an example, there’s a solid argument to be made that it was historically diagnosed as a consumptive disease. My great great aunt died of cancer awhile back and she was practically wasting away.

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            consumptions usually refers to TB, its has been called wasting sickness forever, because one of the symptoms of cancer(terminal) was cachexia which is your body wasting away. i found it interesting inuyasha mentioned its old term"wasting sickness" which immediately knew it was cancer.

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                i remember consumption being the old name for Tuberculosis, its also known as the white death, due to people looking sickly and pallor when having the final stages of tb.

                wasting was always associated with cancer, and then HIV/AIDS. if you hear films using old terms like wasting sickness, you can bet its cancer.

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            Even bronze agers knew what cancer was, they just called it weird things.

            I’ll never forget looking at a virally trending obituary from the 15th century and seeing “Cancer, and Wolf” as a cause of death.

            If you look it up you’ll see other things like “King’s Evil” aka scrofula or jawfaln (lock jaw from tetanus)

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            I’m pretty sure the over 1,000 atmospheric tests of nuclear weapons over the last hundred years had zero effect on background radiation levels and on levels of human contamination from eating radioactive fallout…

            I’m not saying we didn’t have cancer before but I would be very surprised if the rates are not elevated. Even counting misdiagnosises as consumptive illness.

            On a similar note, I do suspect that our current petrochemical heavy environment has changed the human microchoism enough to possibly make it more likely for some of the classical autism traits to be passed on generation to generation influencing their heritability in society at large. Sincerely, an artist with two autistic parents in denial. And at least three autistic grandparents.

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        I really do think autism and cancer have gotten much more common. And it’s very likely something is causing it.

        Not vaccines. Vaccines are fine.

        Could be plastic. Could be pfas (forever chemicals). Could be lots of things, or a combination. But there’s most likely an environmental cause rather than genetic or just an increase in diagnosis. (Though the increase in diagnosis and recognition is also real.)

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          Modern society is making both mild autism and ADHD more obvious. It both brings out traits associated with them, and makes it more acceptable to have them and not mask completely.

          As for cancer, that’s mostly an age and treatment thing. People with cancer live longer, due to treatment, so you hear far more about it. Also, if you live longer, you get cancer. Therefore an older population has more cancer cases.

          My personal concern is neurological and plastics. People with degenerative neurological conditions tend to have more micro plastics in their brains. We’ve no idea of the long term implications of this. It could possibly be the modern equivalent of leaded petrol.

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        looks like she bought into the partly anti-vax prop, probably heard jenny mcarthny once about vaccines and she was hooked.

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      and shoots steroids regurlarly, and is obssesed with playing with animal carcasses.

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    A friend of mine learned she had adhd at 65, and autism very recently at ~78. She said that her behavior and interests finally make sense.

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    The lady doth protest too much… I’m calling it now, some psychiatrist tried to diagnose Rfk Jr with autism and he lost his fucking shit about it. I mean the dudes been obsessed with dead animals since he was a child always been known as “eccentric”.

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    The moment has reignited broader concerns about Kennedy’s qualifications and judgment…

    He has no qualifications and an exactly equivalent amount of judgement.

    🙄 🤡 🖕 🖕

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      He may have 0 qualifications, but I wouldn’t say his judgement is exactly equivalent. His judgment goes much more into the negatives, since everything he says and every decision he makes is actively causing harm. We would be better off simply having the role vacant, or giving the job to someone in a coma.

      Ironically, even the most profoundly autistic people, the ones that resemble his characterization of the condition, would still be better at the job than he is.

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      He is a cis white male. Pretty sure thats all the qualifications he needs unless you are one of those “woke” people who think we should have experts running things.

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    “cannot be this stupid?” This is a kakistocracy, it’s only stupid.

    It’s an administration of “well, I haven’t seen it, so obviously it isn’t real.”

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      It’s an administration made up of people who aren’t smart enough to get better jobs, which assures their loyalty. There’s definitely other people who love trump who are actually qualified for these positions, but they would have said no to some of this at some point.

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    Everyone in Donald’s Admin is fucking stupid. Donald blaming dei… as everyone else is saying merit.

    It must be A1. It’s all computer!

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    I still… maybe it’s my years working construction, but when I look at RFK Jr. - his mannerisms and gestures and speech patterns and connection (or lack thereof) to reality - I see a tweaker, clear as a bell.