Why not?
Oil is a product manufactured by millions of years of stratified organic stuffs and high pressures, it is a concentrate of energy.
TV is not as useful.
Now think about solar power.
What kind of car needs 17 Gallons of capacity?
Generic mid-size sedan from Europe or the US. 64 liters. VW Passat or Mercedes C-class territory. E-class used to get 80 liters as an option.
It’s so you don’t have to get fuel more than once or twice a month at most.
You guys subsidize milk, you should be paying more. And our milk is better quality and organic, Thats why we refuse to buy the crap from the US
Do… do you put milk in your car?
Are you okay, buddy?
I doubt twenty years of ag gag laws have been kind to the industry that was partly responsible for the formation of the FDA.
I’m really unenthused by meat and dairy in the States.
One of those doesn’t come loaded with ads.
Unless your gas pump has ads, or it’s a non-smart tv
I meant post purchase, i.e. fuel once it gets in your tank and the TV once you get it home, but yeah, you’re right too.
Lol you can see where the “I did that” sticker used to be…
Wonder if it was an old Biden version or a new Trump version.
Are you paying for the cheap tv by bringing hostile spywear into your home?
It’s possible not, I suppose.
TV is cheap because you are the product. CEOs want you to see their ads, their propaganda.
Gas is expensive because they have not yet found a way to stop car-owner from leaving the sofa in front of TV
But they do have ads at the pumps
Tvs are cheap because manufacturing costs came down. They were cheap before they were smart
Both are true. Manufacturing costs went down significantly, but non-smart TVs are now more expensive than equivalent smart TVs by over $100 from what I have seen.
TVs harvest user data which is monetized as well
Can you even get non smart TVs?
Car companies could learn a lot from the printer industry.
If production of cars and oil were the same companies, cars would be as cheap as TVs and gas for them would be 10x current price.
The tv should have always cost more. That’s part of the problem. America drunk on cheap consumer goods.
I disagree. America has heavy subsidies on gas prices.
I can’t believe how cheap TVs are. I think I bought a 22” CRT 25 years ago and it was easily over $200.
E: a CPI check says a $220 monitor in 2000 is $435 today.
They’re cheap because they use extensive tracking to make up the rest of their money
Compare any tv to a monitor of the same size and feature set
Yeah, they’re selling you an ad platform. It won’t be long before they start leaving off the HDMI ports.
Visit Japan or the EU and their fuels prices make the USA cheap. It is odd in the USA, most people are concerned about fuel prices, but healthcare costs are far worse.
Healthcare is only for the weak. I am one if the elect; god loves me, so I won’t ever need to think about that.
Tell me about it. Why is cost of gas what we focus on
Because you pay for gas every couple days with your credit card, while you pay for healthcare rarely
Idk if I’m winning or losing as someone that pays for healthcare way more often then gas…
…DAYS?!
i drive to work every day and i refuel like every other month.
#autoorientedinfrastructure
A large portion of US adults don’t understand the difference between simple and compound interest.
Many are living with less than 1 month salary as savings.
This results in a largr portion with neither the mental space nor capability (or both) to worry about 6 months down the line when they have to worry for 6 days down the line
Gas is a cheat code to decades of stored solar energy. It won’t be cheap for ever. Once you mine up all that shit it’s gone.
Look at WV and their coal. Use to have 12 ft coal seams. Now all that’s left are hard to reach low quality 1-2ft seams. At some point it’s not even worth the energy to extract.
There are people who believe the earth regenerates and creates more petroleum… In essence it will never run out
There’s probably a step g correlation to flat earthers
It will! Just not within human life spans that’s my answer usually. Alot of their thoughts are grounded in something real. Its easier then telling them they are flat out wrong usually.
Unless it’s the flat earthers
It probably won’t to my understanding. Most fossil fuels are from large organic material deposits (usually from plants) underwater or in low oxygen environments where they aren’t disturbed/don’t decompose. Basically the conditions for fossil fuels to be remade don’t exist anymore so we really aren’t getting any more
There’s definitely location on earth where they will get generate again. Plus climate change only really means the extinction of all human life as we know it. Everything else will carry on, it’s not the first large level extinction event.
The conditions that created it are likely to arise again. Most oil deposits are actually from innumerable numbers of planktonic life that built up on the ocean floor. Coal is from plant matter though.
Point is its generally easier to redirect then reprogram people, with enough nudges they’ll start to see they are being lied to, or at least will know not to bother you with that specific subject anymore
Gas is cheaper than milk, Thats kinda fucked considering gasoline is finite
you think cows are infinite?
Yes it’s called breeding. You can’t breed more gasoline
Jurassic Park says otherwise 😉
Actually, Bloomberg Finance recently warned about how the cattle replacement level is precariously low in the US. It takes a minimum of a one-year forecast to gauge how many dairy cows will be born to reach milk production status, and apparently farmers are having a difficult time with all the debt and limited resources hampering them. Because of the US’s red meat addiction, we are currently at best only at minimum replacement, which is really concerning until the nation reduces some of its cattle consumption; otherwise, beef prices will continue to rise…
Well we’re talking about maintaining cows for food at a sustainable level, the US is stupid in all aspects and should not be considered. The rest of the world isnt greedy and fat like Americans.
As far as I’m concerned the US is an isolated dictatorship like NK so their numbers are al over the place depending on who is dear leader
this is one example the sort of nuance was hinting at. cheers
it takes limited resources to breed the living beings youre talking about
Food and grass are also growable
so youre just going to act like you dont understand at all huh
The fuck? Milk is 2x to 4x cheaper ($0.50-$1.00) than the most common gasoline, Natural 95 ($2.10) here. I thought you’d get something from those crazy “Got milk?” dairy subsidies…
(Multiply by 4.5 to get US units rather than liters)
2x cheaper is a crazy way of saying half as expensive.
Yet more prof of the insanity of our capitalist system. Fuck this gay earth.
It’s fewer syllables, what’s the problem? And yes, milk is cheaper here than the same quality in the US (despite our 12% VAT) so I don’t see why “cheaper” next to it would feel wrong…
And don’t forget that we don’t get the crap “regular” gasoline with as low as 87 octane rating, the lowest widely available one is 95.Similarly, 75 % of milk drunk here is UHT-treated, as opposed to 10 % in the US.You don’t have much better gasoline there it’s just that you use a different unit for measuring the octane. They aren’t actually much different
Well it’s partially true.
87 AKI is widely available in the US as the minimum octane rating. That translates to 91 RON. I’ve never seen anything under 95 here in Estonia, or at least not this century. 95 and 98 are the only commonly found numbers. 98 is available in the US too, as 93 AKI, but not everywhere as I understand.
TIL, thanks
because expensiveness is a scale that starts from 0 so you always know how expensive everything is. cheapness works the other way, so there’s no starting point. that means there’s no way to quantify how cheap the first thing is, in order to double that. in your example gasoline would have to be the least cheap thing possible, which means nothing can be more expensive.
it’s like saying someone’s twice as short as someone else. half as tall makes sense, twice as short is a weird way to say it because how short is the first person?
“Cheaper” means “less expensive”. 2x cheaper means 2x less expensive, or less expensive by a factor of 2, or 0.5x as expensive. I can say 2x shorter, 2x slower etc. and I don’t see a problem. The adjectives “cheap” and “expensive” don’t relate to a number quantity called “expensiveness” or “cheapness” but “price” or “cost”, which is what the factor applies to, and the word specifies if it’s an increase or decrease. Everyone I know would understand that it’s the reciprocal of the original price, although I get that in a country whose president can say he slashed proces by 500 % without instantly having to resign, fractions and percentages might have to be specified but that’s longer to say for the same number of significant figures.
Yes, I can find people debating “two times cheaper” (English) but not “zweimal billiger” (German) or “dvakrát levnější” (Czech), in fact the phrase is often used in promotional material. The only results suggesting it’s wrong are English Reddit discussions’ automatic translations to German or Czech, and Google’s AI summary that cotes them.
I won’t stop using it just because people with inferior education sometimes don’t get it. Similarly, I provided the metric value and conversion rate, it’s Americans who need to practice mental math.
I won’t stop using it just because people with inferior education sometimes don’t get it.
I doubt anyone doesn’t get it, it just sounds twice as unnatural to a native English speaker.
Whatever, I’m not convincing anyone with my use of metric and username. I’m avoiding some other weird phrases though, for example you won’t usually see me type “14 days” in English although Czech speakers prefer it to “2 weeks” (idk why, it’s the same number of syllables).
Well the gas would be cheaper if they could somehow make it contain advertising and data theft
Oh wait till you find out about how modern cars are mining your data, including facial recognition and reporting of you are having sex in the car! And the best part it’s all unregulated! Govt can simply buy the info for tracking even your Phone would be jealous of!
At least send me the footage for my onlyFans
Somebody forgot all previous instructions and dropped those straight facts.
As someone who makes that software that does this, we can’t even figure out how to properly handle the data we actually want, like analytics to see if anyone actually uses the auto feature on your air conditioner. Nobody actually cares if you have sex in your car. Besides you’re on Lemmy we know your aren’t having sex.
Sad accuracy noises
Well yea f course I’m not having sex, I’m on my phone at the kitchen table, where do you think I am, my car? (-)(-)
Why is it all in the terms of service? Also there have there been numerous data leaks. The sex thing is from a specific manufacturer m’s TOS, but nonetheless
Never been happier to have a base model car from 2012
Never been happier to have a car that can’t even be sold in the US because it can’t connect to any form of network.
What car?
A Peugeot
I love it when the government finds out when I have sex. It’s so romantic – just me, her, and the CIA.
It depends, if it out of the country it’s you, her, and the CIA, if it’s inside the US, it’s you, her, and the NSA
Sounds like a song title “it’s you, her, and the CIA”
It’s a party in the CIA
Sounds like something chef would sing.
Don’t know which one I prefer as a cuck tbh
Why not both?
Where in America do you have gas pumps that don’t have ad TVs or ask you for your zip code?
Very few of the ones around me have the built in ad players. Several stations blare ads (inevitably largely for themselves, curiously enough) over the PA system constantly, though.
The ZIP code thing is for credit card verification. I ask for that too, when you pay me by credit card. I don’t have a choice unless I’d like to enjoy zero fraud and chargeback protection.
The gas station nearest me has screens that show ads, but they’re just for that facility and they don’t have audio. However, the store does have a PA system constantly playing audio, a combination of music and ads.
My favorite ad is the one that advertises themselves to advertisers. I don’t remember the exact wording, but it’s basically “want to advertise something? We’ve essentially got a captive audience and there are a lot of them!”
Lots of places now
You don’t get ads on your gas pump?
They don’t exist in my country, and to be frank, I’m shocked the ones in the US aren’t vandalised to hell and back by masked vigilantes at night.
The pumps do
Ohh that is a great idea. We can put different markers in different brands and then detect those markers in a customer’s breath to tell what brand they are using on the fly.
Then when you develop cancer from exposure we can use this information to market other brands. After all, why would you use Shell gas if it gave you cancer when you could use Exxon instead.
I neither, can I pay double for the Tv without the poorly named smartness in it?
